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Discuss our mature Forest-2-Plot Feature
Food Plots
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richt1945 26-Dec-14
elkaddict 26-Dec-14
TurkeyBowMaster 26-Dec-14
Am125 27-Dec-14
Charlie Rehor 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
Gonzo 27-Dec-14
HuntHard 27-Dec-14
t-roy 27-Dec-14
drycreek 27-Dec-14
TurkeyBowMaster 27-Dec-14
XMan 28-Dec-14
TurkeyBowMaster 28-Dec-14
TurkeyBowMaster 28-Dec-14
XMan 28-Dec-14
jax2009r 29-Dec-14
cityhunter 29-Dec-14
cityhunter 31-Dec-14
southernbeagle 30-Jan-15
Keef 31-Jan-15
southernbeagle 31-Jan-15


Date:26-Dec-14

what did u plant? i cleared a 1/2 acre and planted shot plot and it didn't do so good

Date:26-Dec-14

I have cool equipment envy:). I am struggling to get a local equipment operator to get me on his calendar. I need half a day of work done clearing an overgrown pasture that is too much for my tractor. I also need some help grading/digging drainage ditches so I can plant another pasture in the spring rather than late august when things normally dry up. This will bring our food plots to nearly ten acres. I've got lots of soil amending to do this spring. One of the plots has a PH <5 and others are >6.5. I'm puzzled by the variance because several decades ago, this was all one big pasture.

Date:26-Dec-14

Gardeners always like new ground.

By: Am125
Date:27-Dec-14

Pat, What did you plant in the plot ? Also how many hours of sun did you get in there ?

Date:27-Dec-14

Really cool. I can only imagine what we could have done in our NY property. Good for you! C

By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

I did this same thing last February on our new forested land. We bought 80 acres that had absolutely no openings in it. I hired a dozer operator to come in and doze a fence row around it once we had the survey done and since I had a few extra dollars I marked out an area for a plot and had him doze out a bit less than an acre food plot and put in a small waterhole on the east side of it.

Once he was done with the dozer I came in with my Kubota and used the boxblade with the ripper teeth set full deep to fill holes and pull roots up so I could cut them.

Once that was done I frost seeded 5 lbs of Durana White clover and 5 Lbs of Barduro Red clover with no ammendments... clover took forever to get started but once it started popping I went back up and put down a few hundred pounds of pelletized lime and 250 lbs of triple 13 and threw in a summer blend of seed on top.

Since deer up in the big woods didn't really ever have anything like this it took them a long time to figure out it was edible but once they did I had lots of regular visitors including all 3 of the mature bucks we took off the property...

By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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And what it looked like yesterday... I must qualify that 5 of the neighbors cows got in back on 10/31/14 and were on the property until 11/08/14... All that is left is clover...

By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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A pic of #1 in the plot mid summer...

By: Gonzo
Date:27-Dec-14

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Date:27-Dec-14

Nice article for sure....all I could do is read it and dream of owning my own 50 acres one day.

By: t-roy
Date:27-Dec-14

Very nice Pat!

I see in the video that you left some stumps. I'm curious as to why you didn't grub out all of the stumps?

I have a bunch of Soft Maple stumps on the edge of my river bottom food plot as well as a few stumps in other plots that I have to maneuver around. They are kind of a pain. I will let them rot for a few years then I should be able to grub them out with my skid loader. Not worth spending the $ to hire a dozer.

You already have the dozer so that's not the reason. Did you leave them for another reason? Just curious.

Also, on the apple trees at or near the plot, do you prune them back to promote better growth/yield or do you just leave them as-is?

Date:27-Dec-14

Good video and article Pat. Gives you a lot of satisfaction creating a food plot out of pure woods . I cleared and grubbed all of mine since my place was all woods when I bought it. Of course I already had a D5 Caterpillar and a John Deere 310 backhoe as well as my Kubota 5700 tractor. It's a little easier when you've been running equipment all your life as I have , but looks like you were doing a good job !

I don't have one of those little rakes to gather all my roots up, I picked them all up by hand ! I thought about buying one, just never have. I left a few trees in my plot that I wish I had taken out. Just something about an oak that makes me want to leave it, but they are a pain to work around. Good stuff !

Date:27-Dec-14

Was any thought given to whether to push the brush to the outside to create funnels or to the middle and burn to create potash for the field?

By: XMan
Date:28-Dec-14

Pat,

I have a new property in KY and just had my first full season hunting it. One of the things I noticed was how nervous the deer were hitting the fields. The bucks were constantly on edge and hardly stayed in the fields for more than 2 mins. Curious if you have considered adding any types of tall grass strips or corn rows to provide cover and relax the deer a bit. I have four plots but the experience is the same from the 3 small acre plots to the big field which is prolly 6 acres.

Any thoughts or suggestions? I am considering adding apples trees near the corner edges and give another option for food.

XMan

Date:28-Dec-14

"Any thoughts or suggestions? ".

I know these plots are small, but small plots do make the deer more nervous. One thing that comes highly recommended is to leave a fairly large strip around the edge implanted. 20 yards is not too wide. This implanted edge will grow up in briars and saplings...thick edge cover that should be fertilized. I have followed this practice and have witnessed deer feed in this edge for long periods and never come out into the field. We at times think we can plant all these exotic new plants only to find out that a natural stand of plants that are fertilized can produce good too.

Date:28-Dec-14

Unplanted

By: XMan
Date:28-Dec-14

TBM,

I did that on two of the smaller plots and it didn't really help. One plot is 150 yards long by 75 yards wide, each side I left to natural weeds that grew 4 feet tall. Deer avoided this plot like the plague, planted brasicas in it with clover. The plot grew great, not sure why the deer didn't like it but they would run across this plot and never stop to nibble, cameras in this field now are not yielding many deer. its still green with brasicas.

The other plot is 150 yards by 150 yards had only brasicas in it and the does liked this field, but very cautious. Bulldozed a giant heap of trees in the middle to funnel deer to either side or on the low side. I was thinking of burning this brush pile down next season and planting rows down the middle.

the last small plot didn't do well for a variety of reasons, too many stumps and trees left in it so the moisture and any water is getting sucked up by the trees. need a bulldozer to really clean this one up or plant something like apples and pears and forget it as a plot.

Date:29-Dec-14

how long before the deer found it

Date:29-Dec-14

Pat nice video but how big of a tree can u push over with the dozer

Date:31-Dec-14

Pat what does the machine weigh

Date:30-Jan-15

I had 2 acres cleared for a food plot last spring. It cost $600 for the dozer work and another $100 for disking and dragging.

The deer didn't think much of the white clover/rye/radish mix I planted. I think I'll have it disked up and plant all mammoth clover, the deer here seem to like that best. It will get over knee high and deer will even bed in it.

By: Keef
Date:31-Jan-15

Pat, when did you plant this seed mixture? Early fall? I think I'll try the oats and Austrian peas together this year. The field I'm thinking of has Ladino clover now but it doesn't do much once it frosts. So I'd like to have something for later in the year.

Date:31-Jan-15

Pat,

In southern MI the going rate is $50 hr for dozer work, they don't charge for transport either if you have 10 hrs or more work.

That $600 also included making some trails in my woods.

You just have to have the work done early before their busy time starts in summer.


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