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Distribution of Age Guesses for Buck 1

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Buck 1
Buck 2
Todd Greseth
6.5
6.5
1 has been surviving in a harsh enviroment at top of his size this year. 2 has snaller genetics and over the hill on rack size
Joey Gruber
4.5
4.5
just a hunch
Scott Silvers
7.5
4.5
no idea what to guess.
nick
5.5
3.5
guess
Austin Lawless
5.5
4.5
Buck one was obviously on camera for three years ahead of this, but looking at his belly and swayback I'm going to add the other two years to him. The second buck is an East coast buck with smaller ge
Dana Wybourn
6.5
3.5
buck 1 sway back pot belly. buck 2 straight back good shape
frank gulla
5.5
2.5
#1 had 3yrs of camera pics, but his body has a swayed back, big belly, and some real mass, he was elsuive and a wilderness buck that allowed him to live that long. #2 has a straight back, young face,
Paul Inguaggiato
7.5
8.5
Body chareristics
Jeff Allard
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 - The body size seems right for a public land Canadian buck. Buck 2 - Body size seems right for a NY buck feeding from farm fields.
Gerald Murray
6.5
5.5
Non flat back and stomach. No expert though
Todd Estrela
6.5
3.5
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Chris Taylor
4.5
2.5
I am really just taking a guess. I have never been very good at aging deer. I looked forward to reading some of the feedback here from more capable folks. Thanks!
Kris Borgeson
3.5
5.5
LOoks
Tom Metzler
7.5
4.5
the paunch and roman nose on #1 and lack of same on #2
Matthew Perrault
4.5
3.5
Neither had a real old looking face. They both had good bellies and frames but the backs were not bowing as in an older deer.
anthony d potts
6.5
5.5
looks
Joe
6.5
3.5
Pics and details.
Michael Lilly
6.5
5.5
Guess!
Robert Norville Jr.
7.5
5.5
#1 looked mature with thick bases #2 looked young but mature .
Clint Appling
6.5
5.5
Buck #1 6.5 -belly size and gray face if older rack gets smaller. Buck #2 not the best video since seems near dark not broad day light. 5.5 - belly size but can't see face well in video or pictures.
Keith Callahan
6.5
3.5
shape of face/nose,back and belly and location where killed
Rob
5.5
4.5
Body size and appearance of neck, belly and then the appearance of rack. Also nose.
George Robson
6.5
4.5
Body
Kyle Young
5.5
6.5
Really have no clue
Dan
3.5
3.5
Both bucks have generally short faces, not a lot of sag in the back, not a lot of grey.
Dale Christel
4.5
4.5
Both appeared to be the same size but giving the location the northern buck has the better rack genetics
Matt Michaels
6.5
4.5
Body size and description of where each buck was from
Brian Hickey
5.5
5.5
Shape of: Stomach, back, front vs rear, head
Jon Peaster
6.5
3.5
Steven Seagal told me.
Adam Pauls
5.5
7.5
Buck one doesn't look old. Belly and face/greyness. 3 years of pics guessing he is recognizing him at 2.5 yrs old and put him at a mature 5.5 Buck #2 old face big bum look could be angle.
Brian Westfall
5.5
3.5
#1 mature body saggy belly, "short" legs, wide, massive rack, Good tine length and long main beams, Buck #2. Has a mature body, main beams are short, time length is short, spread is lacking.
Chris Lattin
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has big belly, sagging back and HUGE front quarters....wouldn't surprise me if he isn't older than 5.5 Buck 2 has a little belly to him but small up front and a flat back.
Jim DeAngelo
6.5
5.5
Just a guess.
Chuck Kemmerer
6.5
3.5
Guessing !
Ryan C Waskiewicz
6.5
3.5
Arched back in buck 2 where buck1 has flattened back
Ryan C Waskiewicz
6.5
3.5
Arched back in buck 2 where buck1 has flattened back
ERIC HOUSTON
4.5
7.5
shape of the head. depth of body
John Dupuis
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 had been seen several years prior. Buck 2 a younger animal.
SHAUN Seitz
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 looks to be young but in his prime, in this part of the country with good genetics this buck has no problem getting to this size. Buck 2 looks young and supports a typical size antlers for 3yrs
John A Waight
5.5
6.5
Buck #1 had well defined shoulders, rounded belly but a little younger face and head. Buck#2 was a toad. big shoulders, big in the mid-section and rear quarters. His legs looked short. Older head.
TSCHWARTZ
3.5
2.5
guess
TSCHWARTZ
3.5
1.5
Long term hunter
Keith Machiela
5.5
4.5
Total guesses.
Ryan
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 is that much or more, after that, its purely a guess. Buck #2 is textbook 4 year old body
Kevin Martin
6.5
4.5
buck 1 had 3 years of pictures, so i am thinking he had to be at least 3 1/2 to know if it was the same deer. buck 2 has higher hunter pressure and to make 4.5 would be more impressive
Lance Ebel
6.5
3.5
Musculature
John Brandon
8.5
5.5
1st deer had the same belly problem I have not as much on 2nd deer.
Jerry Buschle
4.5
3.5
Buck 1 has belly sag which puts him at least 4.5, really hard to tell after that. Buck 2 was passed at 2.5 ,body character puts him at 3.5 yrs.
Boyd Garrett
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 has a heavy, block shaped body, sagging brisket. Buck #2 doesnt have the overall body frame of Buck #1 but still not yet reached its potential.
Steve Gili
5.5
7.5
No experience at this. Just guessing.
Matt Michalik
7.5
4.5
chest size
Norm Higgs
8.5
4.5
Colors of the animal, body composition, proportionality to standards in game taken, wild guess factor included.
Travis Elmore
4.5
6.5
Overall the top buck was thin horned for the size of the rack. Also he looked younger in the face. The second buck had a mature body and short tines, which led me to think he was going downhill.
Neal Finke
5.5
6.5
Body wise, deer #2 "looks" older. Deer #1 looks to be in his prime. Regardless, either one is a shoot first, age later buck.
Lance Nogosek
6.5
6.5
Pat is tricky with these games so this year he is throwing a curve ball at us. Both deer seem to have really old mature bodies and good mass.
BRIAN CAVEY
6.5
4.5
strictly a guess
Brian Roy
4.5
6.5
Just a guess.
Stan Shane
4.5
5.5
buck 1 seemed to have a smaller body
Sean Power
5.5
7.5
Body size
Keith Boswell
4.5
3.5
neither had bowed backs or sagging bellies
Dustin James Hower
4.5
4.5
By there body an the brisket... the deer are at least 3.5 years old that's when you notice the front of them being bigger then there rear end!!!! Just a guess
Craig Ettenhofer
7.5
3.5
1. Gray on nose 2. Younger looking and size
Rick
5.5
4.5
Roman nose thick neck on buck number 1 second buck looks just a little smaller in the neck.
Christopher P Handy
5.5
4.5
You wouldnt believe me if I told you
Christopher P Handy
5.5
1.5
He had 3 yrs of pics so I would think he was at least2 1/2 in order to say it was the same deer
Christopher P Handy
5.5
1.5
He had 3 yrs of pics so I would think he was at least2 1/2 in order to say it was the same deer
Christopher P Handy
5.5
1.5
He had 3 yrs of pics so I would think he was at least2 1/2 in order to say it was the same deer
Wyatt Ewald
6.5
4.5
#1 - Large front end, sagging belly and back, roman nose, sharp snout #2 - Square bodied and fat, straight top line, slick hide
Wyatt Ewald
6.5
4.5
#1 - Large front end, sagging belly and back, roman nose, #2 - Square bodied and fat, straight top line, slick hide
Travis Black
7.5
4.5
I know nothing of white tails, but am very confident in muledeer, my guess is what I would base a guess of a mule deer.
Joe McFadden
6.5
4.5
Waistline. Neck and shoulders
Mike Tinkham
4.5
6.5
just guessing
Dustin Lambert
5.5
3.5
buck#1 has long main beams and is heavy. buck#2 has short mains but good mass and big body. could easily be just 2.5
Frank Siefer
5.5
4.5
Stomach
Frank Siefer
5.5
4.5
Stomach
Frank Siefer
5.5
1.5
Sagging stomach
Dan Johnson
5.5
4.5
I'm an idiot and have no clue
richie bland
7.5
4.5
body shape
tom manente
5.5
3.5
buck 1 is a heavy horned buck with great mass that carries all the way out. it is also wide. buck 2 is a thick meaty deer with a good rack 16-18 inch wide between 125-135 inch buck
Richard Lehnhoff
4.5
5.5
Buck one looked mature with a bit of a sagging belly, but still kind of looked sleek. Buck 2 looked older with a bigger sagging gut to me.
Adam Tembreull
6.5
3.5
Body Size and Mass
john Kaczmarski
3.5
6.5
Body size, proportion, younger face on #1 and sleeker body. Ear length. no roman nose, or pot belly like on #2. #2 looks like on down hill in antlers, and stubby face and legs.
Todd Emeigh
6.5
5.5
Just going on body size and look,
tr
5.5
4.5
size
Richard Beckwith
5.5
3.5
Deer #1 wide gate, sway back, very cautious. Deer#2 rugged straight back on him, didn't seem as cautious
mark thomas
5.5
3.5
sagging belly on buck 1 buck 2 is too clean to be older
Joe Durnal
6.5
4.5
Info provided and video scenes body language
Justin Bessent
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 has a low belly with a well rounded brisket which puts him over 4, shortened nose and amount of grey I say 5.5. Buck #2 is trim in the mid, longer snout, not much grey, passed on last year3.5
Greg Babcock
6.5
4.5
Even though buck #1 is a northern big bodied buck, his belly is sagging and he has a lot of gray in his face. Buck number 2 doesn't appear to have the graying to his face, and a flat belly.
Rob Wilkinson
7.5
5.5
My best guess after looking at their bodies...obviously fully mature deer.
Harry Lindroth
6.5
3.5
Buck 1: Has large, long sagging body and antler mass is substantial. Trophy for sure. Buck 2: this is a nice genetic ten that has ok mass, body size seems very average.
Harry Lindroth
6.5
3.5
Buck 1: Has large, long sagging body and antler mass is substantial. Trophy for sure. Buck 2: this is a nice genetic ten that has ok mass, body size seems very average.
Nicholas T. Bruck
4.5
3.5
Buck 1is not a huge deer and his horns don't have great mass. Buck 2 is mature but not old.
Reid Hash
5.5
5.5
Look that same to me.
John T Greenfield
3.5
4.5
Buck #1 still seemed to be body/leg proportional, indicating that he was likely not a fully mature deer. Buck #2 had a drooping stomach indicative of a mature buck.
tom peterson
7.5
5.5
buck 1 has older appearances. buck 2 is mature but not as old as 1.
Brian Nalley
7.5
6.5
Body confirmation
Forrest Anderson
6.5
5.5
Buck #1 nontypical points, pot belly. #2 still a main frame 10
Richard Reeves
3.5
4.5
wild guess
GB
6.5
8.5
Just a guess
Robert Farthing
6.5
4.5
I know buck number 1 is at least 3 years old from the photos of past years.
Alschmitt
9.5
4.5
Just guessing
gary teague
5.5
4.5
2 years to get some type of antler growth and then 3 .5 years to let him get big buck 2 passed on the yr before must not have had horn growth and then he exploded into a giant
gary teague
5.5
4.5
2 years to get some type of antler growth and then 3 .5 years to let him get big buck 2 passed on the yr before must not have had horn growth and then he exploded into a giant
gary teague
5.5
4.5
2 years to get some type of antler growth and then 3 .5 years to let him get big buck 2 passed on the yr before must not have had horn growth and then he exploded into a giant
Jerry Stillwagon
8.5
5.5
Size of neck and base of tines. Size of ears to head.
Dave Cleland
1.5
1.5
Buck no. 1 is 7 1/2 big belly looks bloated feet spread out from his weigh looks pigen toed, buck no 2 is 2 1/2 , then narrow looking when it run and took off alot. Quicker.
Dennis Newton
3.5
6.5
Body of deer #1 looks youthfull and posture says stud with great genes. Buck#2 body aging & rack regressing
bill gallagher
4.5
6.5
buck 1 big body but normal for canada. looks young no sway back or sagging belly. buck 2 looks really big bodied for new york buck. looks old in the face
Tim Foust
4.5
3.5
Buck 1, very northern bucks are bigger, but he appears young, his belly is in line with his chest though. Antlers don't look like they're as big as they can get. B 2, belly not as low as chest, legs t
Josh Waldroup
7.5
1.5
Just tried understanding facts in the video
Rick Archer
5.5
6.5
Buck 1 from Can. big body deer anyway no slanted eyes or big belly. Buck 2 little more belly horns maybe on decline my guess.
Brandon Greer
5.5
4.5
Body shape and history
Ralph Fasano
5.5
4.5
adding the age the color of hair # of points
Bruce
1.5
4.5
Look like
Bruce
3.5
1.5
Lookedyoung
erik grove / blue spot
6.5
4.5
buck one was a good one 3 years ago so he was at least 3 then so add 3 years. maybe more deer 2 looks fairly sleek and with a good diet good genetics can grow plenty of antler at a fairly young age
Brien Ruiz
2.5
4.5
Buck1 look older than he is Buck 2is older than he look
ROGER GUDERIAN
4.5
6.5
NO. 1 FACE LOOKS YOUNGER
John Mixen
4.5
6.5
Pure luck
Bernie Weisgerber
7.5
3.5
WAG -, we do not have whitetail deer here I so never see them.
Danny Ridgeway
5.5
2.5
I looked at the body dimensions plus coat color to arrive at my guess of the age.
Ben Hallock
4.5
3.5
Experience
Tom Olesen
1.5
4.5
that's my guess
Tom Olesen
5.5
1.5
that's my guess
Pete Wojciechowski
3.5
5.5
Yrs of guessing
Josh Bolin
4.5
3.5
Nose length seems short on both so i guess them both young bucks, just a guess though as I have no idea how to accurately age deer.
Barry Hart
7.5
3.5
Looks older
charles
4.5
3.5
body size, antler beam width,#1. antler dimensions , body size,#2
Mark Kempe
6.5
8.5
Canadian deer have a rich habitat w less hunting pressure
GENE RHODES
4.5
7.5
MORE MUSCLE, DIDN'T HAVE THE HEAD OF AN OLD BUCK. LOWER CHEST,LESS TONE
Paul johanik
4.5
3.5
I aged by body size
Denise jones
7.5
5.5
Mature bucks with several year history
dolores thornton
7.5
5.5
While buck two looks quit mature one has a thicker neck so I think he is slightly older
martin
5.5
2.5
looking at the deer
Robert Douin
5.5
6.5
Buck 1 is large in size however the back does not sag the brisket is present but not drooping. Buck 2 looks older due to back sagging and the brisket looks larger given the locations of the deer.
Jeff Paulk
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 looks to be in his prime, Roman nose body in good shape not going down from harsh winters. #2 body not developed yet no back sagging or neck difference from his shoulders to neck no Roman nose
BILL SANSOM
5.5
4.5
Buck #1 showed greater mass typical of a buck in his prime, and his muzzle was a little more grizzled appearing. Buck #2 was a fine buck, but he'll be better next year.
Rhoda Cullum
3.5
1.5
Appearance of short legs,large neck
Justin Bearley
6.5
4.5
This is my best guess.
John
3.5
4.5
Sleek look of number one. Almost had a rectangular body but not quite. Buck 2 did not have a sway back but did have a rectangular form. Would have expected a sway on a deer over 4.5 in NY
Lou Kindred
4.5
3.5
body development.
Tim Rigg
6.5
4.5
First buck: 3 years of pictures and really deep belly. Second buck. Seems younger and was passed last year.
David Schacht
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 had very large and blocky body. Buck 2 looked much leaner and and younger appearing body shape.
Dave Stone
5.5
6.5
Buck 1 just does not have that older buck look to his face imo. Clearly a mature buck but he may only be 4.5 years old. Buck 2, not looking at the rack but the body is what I based my decision on.
Justin Broughton
5.5
3.5
S.W.A.G.
Chris Dickens
5.5
4.5
Looking at body and face
Cliff Goytowski
6.5
4.5
IMO buck 1 is fully mature based on his stance and sagging back so he can be anything over 5.5. Buck 2 has a small head yet looks to be just short of fully mature and he was too small last year.
Jay Ross
4.5
6.5
Based off body structure
Matt Schuyler
5.5
5.5
Rookie at aging. Best guess based on what I see.
charles trimarki
6.5
4.5
no expert !
gregory burnham
4.5
3.5
buck one had a bit of a wider forehead , a slight dip in his back . and great mass of a mature buck . buck two had a narrower face snout area , more ridged back structure , and another yr , = booner
Peter Gregoire
4.5
3.5
No sway backs or low bellies so not real old deer
Tim Landolt
5.5
3.5
First buck appears to be certainly mature- maybe maximum antler growth. Size of bases.
greg nahrstedt
5.5
3.5
#1 was heavier across the front shoulders # 2 didn't look as filled out
Darwin D. Boelk
5.5
6.5
Nothing scientific. just looking at body structure.
Ed Paneque
6.5
7.5
#1 - Gut hanging a bit, shoulder structure, big head even against the antler size #2 - body size was mature, thinking he is older and on the downward slide as his rack was diminishing
Buck-Man
6.5
6.5
yes I am Correct!!
Daniel GECK
7.5
3.5
roman nose sagging belly antler growth
Greg Duncan
6.5
4.5
Body shapes & inside info from the Russians
Ron Lanzo
4.5
2.5
Lots of body mass on Buck One, Buck two much less body mass.
mike wylie
6.5
4.5
solid bodies but not yet sagging back libes
David Tomter
3.5
2.5
antler size snoot size
Chuck cramer
4.5
5.5
Trying to look at blocky shoulders and sagging bellies
Ken Marrero
5.5
3.5
body size
John Balkurna
4.5
2.5
Buck size
schulte
3.5
2.5
public land
shawn menard
7.5
6.5
Both are beautiful bucks and I'm going by body mass
Ben Moore
5.5
6.5
#1- filled out, not pot bellied. #2 headed down hill, pot bellied
Ronald McCullough
7.5
6.5
It takes a few good years of food and habitat
Terry Picard
4.5
3.5
Buck #1 has been seen for 3 yrs. Larger belly. Rougher hair. Buck #2, if like northern Illinois, smoother hair, shouldn't be that old. Takes 3 yrs. to get around 200 lbs.
STEPHEN JARANSON
7.5
3.5
The first buck looks very healthy and has no sway back and looks to be at the top of his horn growth. Buck #2 looks to be young and just starting his good horn growth years.
Jacob Dykstra
4.5
5.5
Total random guess
Cord M Gwennap
6.5
4.5
buck 1 is starting to sag in the back indicating his older age. Buck 2 has a nice round figure indicating a mature deer but doesn't show antler growth like a 5 or 6 year old
Steve Payne
6.5
3.5
#1 big frame body totally filled out a little sway in back and really smart elusive #2 seemed immature still growing not as filled out plus face looked young
Nick Eberly
5.5
7.5
No expert, just based on what I see.
Brant Henning
6.5
3.5
That's what I'm guessing. I'm no expert
Brent Cartwright
6.5
6.5
Why not?
Brent
7.5
3.5
Compared two things (chest & overall mass)
Norman Pollock
4.5
5.5
wag
DEW
8.5
7.5
Buck 1 is definitely older Buck 2 in bigger body but younger with good nutrition
George Schriver
6.5
5.5
Buck 1 - Body size (Chest, girth and back) & alertness are what did it for me. Buck 2 - Same as Buck #1
Tony Dallman
5.5
5.5
Just guesses
Erik Ungewitter
5.5
4.5
head and body size and location
Hector O. Chan Colli
7.5
5.5
The way they caries themselves.
Edward Hauck
4.5
3.5
Thickness of horns.
Edward C Hauck
4.5
1.5
Looks heavy.
jeff jacobs
5.5
4.5
# 1 seems to be a little older than #2 neither deer have really arched spines but do have large guts , front shoulders , and saggy skin.
Ryan Athey
6.5
5.5
Both deer are filled out with big bellies. Seems like deer 1 is a bit older.
Glen Manning Jr
5.5
6.5
Both deer were full from front to back and neither one had a sagging belly or a swayed back as far as I could tell. I do think that the #2's muscle mass seemed to be a little bit more sagging.
Justin Brown
5.5
3.5
Using head and body structure for both guesses and trying to disregard the antlers is how I came up with my ages
Barb Yogerst
9.5
6.5
buck #1 size & depth of body buck #2 thin bodied deer
DEREK SHAFFER
4.5
5.5
There first bucks chest doesn't have as much sag as the second, the second one has a huge body with looks like a decline in horn size
Neil Hambrick
6.5
5.5
Both look mature, #1 seem solder to me.
Jim Neaves
7.5
4.5
Buck one is pot bellied, swail backed, legs appear short as body is filled out. He in Canada and winters are harder therefore 7.5 could make him on the decline. Buck 2 just looks like a 4.5 old buck.
Leonard Harris
4.5
5.5
Buck 1 they had him on the camera for 3 years Buck 2 a little sag to the belly slightly older than Buck 1
Chris Sears
5.5
3.5
I'm in full agreement with B1 being older. He moves with that the "labored step" gait typical in older deer. I don't see typical characteristics of older deer in B2.
Daniel Whitehead
5.5
3.5
Belly sag/bloat, straightness of back line, face, legs compared to body.
Gary Burr
5.5
3.5
B1 Mature with slightly crowning snout. B2 Younger buck full belly but younger than B1.
Richard Tiedemann
6.5
2.5
#1 has a thick neck and rump, his muscle mass is bulked up; his face skin is sagging a bit. #2 is slim and his neck is not as large.
Hans Walthert
5.5
4.5
Buck #1 appears to have a slightly swaying back and fuller neck down to brisket compared to buck #2. I don't think buck number 2 is older than 4.5, but he is very stocky and certainly mature.
mike
5.5
3.5
total guess
Justin Oss
4.5
5.5
Buck one I thought may have even been 3 due to the facial structure and not having the sway back or descended belly. Buck 2 appeared to have that "blocky" head with the body to match.
John Paczkowski
4.5
6.5
Though obviously large buck #1 appears rather sleek while buck #2 seems to have a fuller frame, similar to an older gentleman.
TNDEER
7.5
5.5
JUST LOOKED AT PICKS
Leonard Sansoucy
5.5
7.5
#1 body shows him in prime. #2 shows signs of decline in spite of obvious large body mass
Steve Hetrick
5.5
3.5
Both bucks are fully mature but buck #2 has a shorter muzzle
Scott Barefoot
5.5
3.5
Body posture, spine orientation, belly orientation, nose length and shape, amount of gray on face.
Rick Ballhorst
4.5
6.5
Looking at the nose, face and brisket
David Coons
8.5
4.5
Buck 1 was larger, where Buck 2 is a smaller deer.
John Lukach
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 is known to be 3yrs. old. So I figure he is at least 5.5yrs. #2 is unknown, so I guess him to be @ least 3.5 do to his neck & chest sizes.
Nate
3.5
5.5
buck #1 does not have the girth of anything over 3.5 years. buck 2 is secluded indicating he has been pressured and hunted several years.
Richard Diggs
4.5
3.5
buck 1 has roman nose and paunchy. buck 2 is a younger deer but filling out
dean josephson
1.5
3.5
the first deers face and body both look like a mature buck, the second looks a bit younger
David Johnston
2.5
4.5
Buck #1 didn't seem too smart...younger, but a big enough rack to be more than 1.5 yrs. Buck #2 seemed "smarter"
Jason Toews
5.5
7.5
.
Kevin Sullivan
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 is mature and in his prime for a northern deer. Buck 2 is also mature but doesn't have the genetics of buck 1.
Michael Pumphery
4.5
2.5
Just a guess
Tom Ingram
6.5
5.5
Both had nice dark chocolate colored racks, but number one had the face structure of of a full mature buck. Number two look to be just a little younger
Dan Christensen
4.5
6.5
Buck #1 must be at least 3.5 years, with photos from 3 years. While he is big, he still seems fairly "trim", so guess him at 4.5 years. Buck #2 has some sag and rack looks on decline => 6.5 years.
Dellwyn Elkins
3.5
4.5
Neither deer looked that old to me.
Daniel J Sarbacker
4.5
3.5
Both deer lack deep swale in backs, don't have hanging-skin age about their faces, not much of a potbelly. Buck #1 appears more mature--showing dip in topline, neck full to brisket; Buck#2 neck not qu
john chrisagis
5.5
7.5
the size of the body on them
David Zuleger
6.5
3.5
That's how it looks to me.
James Lanier
6.5
4.5
QDMA - How to Age Deer on the Hoof
bill
5.5
8.5
buck 1 better genetics buck2 huge body
Dave Schiller
5.5
4.5
Buck 1: sagging back & belly line, general shape. Buck 2, not quite as filled out, straighter lines, less front end development. Both fully mature, obviously!
Mike Lembke
5.5
6.5
The ask deer doesn't seem to have the saggy breast folds one would expect. The NY buck has the 'roams nose' of an older deer
Joe
6.5
5.5
buck 1 looks older than buck2
Chris Chin
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 has 3 yrs of pictures on it so it has to be at least 4 yrs old. There is a slight sag in the belly area. Buck 2 has no sag in the belly area or back. Looks younger
Paul H Boche
4.5
5.5
#1, Bucks get big in Canada at an earlier age. Bucks in the USA mature at a later age. Paul
Brian strutz
5.5
3.5
Beams on one get to tip of nice looks to have good mass Buck 2 though smaller racked is in early season due to fine hair but looks to have deeper chest
Allen Edmondson
4.5
3.5
Buck # 1 didn't look grizzled enough. Buck #2 was even less grizzly.
John Etzel
7.5
5.5
#1- The slight sway back and pot belly. #2- Neck meeting the brisket, slight roman nose.
Paul Hardenbrook
4.5
3.5
Just a guess
Ryan M Olson
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 has sleek, tight head/nose and straight body lines and #2 has rough/loose skin, curvy body and large brisket and rough forehead.
Dale Beisner
6.5
4.5
#1 roman nose & pot belly. # 2 fat but looks like a younger deer.
Ben Corvin
4.5
4.5
Buck 1 is husky but not sagging or swayback like an older buck. Buck 2 same thing
John M Jillson
6.5
3.5
Buck # 1 large body sagging belly. Buck # 2 is slim with straight back and belly.
Jeff Marjamaa
5.5
4.5
Just guess
Russ Manney
6.5
5.5
Buck #1 The body and antler mass. Nose bridge is extended. #2 decent mass but body seemed large but younger for wear and tear.
Doug Owens
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 stout but slow and steady graying muzzle Buck 2 younger looking, faster movements
Eddie Thibodeaux
5.5
8.5
Buck one smart and just showing Sage. Buck two very much Sage and neck dropping into chest
Terry Moreau
6.5
3.5
Buck one has Rob Nye drooling for three years so that means he had to be at least 3.5 when he first started getting pics. Buck two still looks young in horn mass and body weight.
Caleb Phillips
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 is older
Manuel klimis
6.5
4.5
Mass of first deer antlers and weight . 2nd deer horn size mature but not fully.
Glenn v labor
6.5
4.5
Buck#1 Big woods can hide a buck like that for a long time. Buck#2 he was passed on the year before so im assuming he's on private land some people are lucky if they think he'll get bigger
Greg Meade
4.5
3.5
Buck #1 big, yet still pretty fit looking, didn't look to have saggy belly or short legs Buck #2 athletic looking. Light on its feet appearance
Andrew Farkas
3.5
4.5
Larger Snout on the second deer
Dean savor
4.5
4.5
Body weight and amount of gray in color
kevin gallagher
5.5
3.5
the first buck looked older on the face and coat and body. Second deer looked youger by the body size.
David long
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 massive body bulging belly hump on forehead, totally filled out. Kind of short tied with lots of splits. 6.5 Buck 2 nice size full body pictures not as good as buck 1 OK rack. Feed and minera
ray cernansky
8.5
5.5
size and condition
Bob Bross
5.5
3.5
Judging the back, belly, and neck
Jim Bruns
1.5
3.5
Behavior, antlers, muzzle color
Robert Coleman
3.5
5.5
The first Buck was big but it's top line was straight. The second buck was passed up last year and there is a noticeable dip right behind the shoulder.
Alan Lomasney
5.5
4.5
Both bucks have pot bellys which is unusual with 3.5 and under.
William Loomis
4.5
1.5
50+ years of hunting Wisconsin white tails.
Justin Halpin
5.5
3.5
Size. Intelligence. Years passed up
William Satterfield
5.5
6.5
Pot bellys and amount of "roman" shape to snout.
ROBIN VANDUNK
2.5
2.5
body size,
Dustin Ford
7.5
5.5
Buck #1 is full through the brisket, pot bellied, & starting to get a roman nose. Buck #2 is filling out through the brisket & belly. Face is still pretty tight.
timothy mcphillips
8.5
6.5
thickness of antlers
john (Joe) j harmon
7.5
3.5
I'm guessing Isn't that the contest lol
Tim Koltz
5.5
3.5
Body size
Robert Riecke
5.5
6.5
I think number 2 has bigger body mass 1 has a great rack but I think he is younger
Gerald eads
7.5
4.5
Where the deer are from
Gerald eads
7.5
4.5
Where the deer are from
Gerald eads
7.5
4.5
Where the deer are from
Brenneke Wilcoxon
5.5
6.5
they both have fully mature bodies. The second buck looks a little older than the first one. I came to this based off of their necks.
Randy Earnest
5.5
4.5
Both bucks look filled out through the belly and neck but the 1st buck the sag seems to be more noticeable.
Bill Krause
6.5
4.5
I think Buck #1 is mature because of the description of the elusiveness and intelligence. Buck #2 I feel still needs time to mature, not enough mass on the antlers.
Brian P Albano
5.5
3.5
Body types and aging on face and Rack size.
Don Hain
3.5
4.5
Thickness of neck, paunch.
Garren
6.5
4.5
buck 1 large fully mature body, large head starting roman nosenon typical points and 3 year history. Buck 2 passed previous year so likely grown in size and body fully mature, nice sized typical rack
Steve MacKenzie
6.5
5.5
Also my thoughts- #1 has body size, Roman nose, mass throughout, and non-typical development of an older deer. #2 is fully mature, but still has room to grow and no non-typical points.
Don Priebe
8.5
5.5
Buck 1 is on the downside of prime age. Buck 2 is middle age based on your pictures.
MAX SWAYZE
6.5
5.5
Just a guess.
Gregory Vogel
6.5
3.5
#1 is pretty heavy. Good sized head and looks like he had won a few fights. #2 lighter/smaller rack. Smaller head, Clean/Lean deer. Not fully mature yet.
Jason Justice
5.5
4.5
How big the racks on the bucks are.
james mathes
6.5
4.5
The size of the guts, the shape of the back, the way they hold thier head. Deep chested.
John Hamilton
6.5
1.5
Smart buck in his prime. He may not have been seen for three years.
Pete Alexander
3.5
6.5
1st buck's in his prime, but spine length is beginning to shorten. 2nd buck's stomach to high.
David C Jones
7.5
5.5
Body size
GARY SAVELEY
6.5
3.5
Size and shape of body.
Bob MacPherson
6.5
8.5
Just the size and stature of both deer.
Wayne Kulich
6.5
3.5
Body mass and movement
Clint Hatlestad
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 has a large frame& long nose Buck2 the body does not look to big.
Nathan
5.5
4.5
No rationale at all
peter
3.5
4.5
buck 1 has some mass but not enough to make him old and buck 2 is from ny where it takes many years for a buck to get this big
Russell Bird
3.5
4.5
I figured that this was a trick on some level. Buck 1 is massive but doesn't look old and weathered. Buck 2 looks older but not a huge rack. Hard to tell
Don Holmes
6.5
3.5
Buck 1, sagging belly, deep chest well developed shoulders Buck 2, neck not as developed, rear legs still not level with body
Jerry Krupp
4.5
7.5
Buck one had a fairly straight back and it's face was clear. The white circles under the eyes were only beginning. Buck #2 still had a straight back but the white circles were clearly defined.
David Bain
5.5
3.5
#1 has body size, Roman nose, mass throughout, and non-typical development of an older deer. #2 is fully mature, but still has room to grow and no non-typical points.
Brandon Deaver
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 had a neck that transitioned into his chest fairly seamlessly, however, he did not have a big belly or a sag in his back. Deer 2 had a full body, but his neck/chest region were not seamless.
James M Maloney Jr
5.5
7.5
1 not on the decline yet. 2 may be past it's prime.
James M Maloney Jr
5.5
1.5
Not on the decline yet
tom c. devlin
3.5
5.5
sas. run heavier plus looking at the muzzle of this deer it dosn,t look aged or scarred deer two has alot of grey on his muzzle and around his eyes plus what looks like considerable scars and taking i
Caleb Lawrence
7.5
4.5
beam mass
Rodney Burch
5.5
4.5
Mostly body size and area where shot
Rick Pirkle
6.5
3.5
Deer #1 slope back, hanging belly. Deer #2 just look youg by body features.
Rod sneath
3.5
5.5
Judged body instead of rack
John Gadzo
8.5
5.5
antler development, size of rack, number of points
Rodney sneath
4.5
4.5
Body's chest doesn't sag enough to be older
Bill Davis
6.5
4.5
Buck 1. Sloped top line, wide front end, large ponch. Buck 2. Straight top, trim body, blend of neck to chest
Jamie Zimmer
6.5
4.5
Buck 1, size of back half of the deer, dip at the shoulders, and the blackness of the fur around the face. That's an older deer. Buck 2, looks almost exactly like my 10pt, and he was aged at 4.5yrs.
Christopher Allen
7.5
6.5
1st impression of body shape
Ryan Samland
3.5
5.5
Just an educated guess
Steve Bryant
4.5
2.5
#1 4 1/2 #2 2 1/2
doug
7.5
6.5
physical attributes of the first deer - large belly, thick back legs. 2nd deer - just a guess
Colin
6.5
6.5
2 very differnet areas and both deer in prime years
Thomas Williams
1.5
3.5
Straight back profile, short muzzle
Donald Pyne
5.5
3.5
years of hunting
Nicholas Martin
7.5
6.5
Deep bodies
Cunningham Mark W
5.5
3.5
Buck 1- short humped nose, swaying in back and muscularity . Buck2- maturing body but not muscular like a fully matured buck. Slender facial features
Jeffrey Warf
5.5
2.5
Belly and posture. Antler development
Jeff Ebert
5.5
5.5
Body types and length of nose
Jeff Ebert
5.5
5.5
Body types and length of nose
Richard Bernier
4.5
3.5
Good Guess!
Bain Blowers
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 - older body, slight sag in back, but not in decline Buck 2 - healthy body, no gray
LARRY WENTRCEK
6.5
5.5
#1 had been seen for 3 seasons, mature not in decline, heavy neck some belly but straight back and heavy nosed. #2 had been seen previous season not shot , mature, some belly but straight back.
alex Tunnicliff
6.5
4.5
size of rack, belly, back, and location of country
Craig Giancola
5.5
3.5
Experience! Hopefully I am close. The N.Y. buck could have gone 4.5 but he is fat from all the great food you feed him so kept him at 3.5. The Canadien buck was tougher. He might be a 4.5 or even a 3.
Matt O'Driscoll
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 had 3 years of photos (2014-2016), figure he was a couple years old before pictures = 5.5. Buck #2 was passed up the previous year, assuming he was at least 2 years old at that time = 3.5 yrs.
Kurt Caramanidis
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 looks like he's in his prime. Buck #2 looks like a modest 3.5 year old buck.
M
3.5
3.5
Just a guess
Scot Sittner
5.5
3.5
Gut feeling
David Pounds
3.5
6.5
Buck 1 has tight stomach line muscled like race horse and separation at neck and shoulders. Buck #2 has Roman nose slight sway in back and heavy waistline blocky head
Jon Neubauer
6.5
4.5
I went with 6.5 for the first deer due to the barrel chested look. The next one I figured was 4.5. Even tho he has smaller antlers his body showed signs of age in his body and legs
Charlie Rode
5.5
3.5
Geography and size
Eric Stack
6.5
4.5
Antlers and body shape on buck #1 body shape on buck#2
David harmonson
8.5
5.5
Buck 1 look grey in the Face while buck 2 was starting to grey. Both had good coats
Aaron Windhorst
4.5
7.5
Buck 1 has all the body characteristics of an up and coming monster. Very strong and good shape over all. Buck 2 is on a declining trajectory. Very big body for a New York buck with average rack.
Mark Schoenfelder
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 had roman nose, heavy body, and many points, of different lengths. Buck 2 looked lighter, and a very uniform rack- obviously great genetics and feed.
Dave Dobronski
5.5
4.5
Buck one's face is more angled and thick through the brisk. No loose skin though. Buck 2 face looked young however his belly sagged enough to look mature.
Bill Gilley
4.5
2.5
Antler mass and chest size
Greg Thiele
6.5
5.5
I guessed
David crans
6.5
4.5
First buck is nontypical Racks go downhill after's six years. Buck is not five years old yet.
David Harmonson
8.5
1.5
Still has a good coat Very careful Grey on face
Robert Lee Sidders
7.5
4.5
Facial coloring, belly sag, brisket sag.
Randy Koopmann
6.5
3.5
1. Large body older deer heavy belly, heavy thick neck, antlers on decline, shorter antlers points, on camera for 3 years 2 3.5 years old young deer good potential, mass in antler still developing,
Enoch Hale
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 is incredibly cautious despite a desirable food source. That type of behavior is characteristic of more mature deer (and humans for that matter). Buck two front quarter still has maturity left
Don Bales
3.5
3.5
Canadian deer are seldom long lived. This winter coat will make them look more robust and heavier in the neck that they really are. Body is relatively streamlined. No tarsal staining yet points to 3.5
Tom Dumais
3.5
5.5
1st buck, heavy winters, need extra food to survive winter. 2d buck NY state needs heavy coat and mast to survive winter
Wendy Christensen
6.5
5.5
Buck one has the body of a heavy, mature buck with a broad body and belly, buck 2 is also mature looking, but not quite big of a chest. Both have big necks and shoulders. Partially based on location
JAMES A. YOUNG
5.5
3.5
Information provided on each buck
Mike Bogus
7.5
3.5
Warren Southworth
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 is heavy in the gut, but not white in the face: fully mature. Buck #2 is uniform in the body, but not quite as well racked as he would have been in another year or two.
Bob Maguda
4.5
6.5
#1 3-4 yrs old due to heavy body but not a fat belly, no loose skin on neck. #2 - much wider, deeper looking body, ripples in the hide, heavy belly. Rack means nothing when aging. Pics make hard.
Gregory Burnette
6.5
3.5
Body characteristics
Hunter Michael
5.5
4.5
I'm always guessing the age of deer but never know if I'm actually right haha. Woukd be nice to get an accurate age from a buck for once. I'm going to have to try one of your tests.
mark sargent
4.5
4.5
Look to be the same ages to me
Joe Z
5.5
3.5
Judging by body characteristics...
Andrew
7.5
6.5
size of head, spread, and behavior
Terry stuart
4.5
5.5
Buck one has the look of a mature buck but not super old. Buck 2 has the short snout and blocky look of a little older buck.
Jordan Peterson
5.5
3.5
Arch of back, shoulder and neck sizes, belly sag
Troy Najarian
5.5
3.5
buck one has the extra points and mass of fully mature buck. Buck two is still kind of smooth and neck is still separated from shoulders
Todd Gardner
5.5
4.5
#1 head looks older and his antlers more defined. #1 was more careful walking in as well #2 looks younger and antlers not as mature
James McKnight
7.5
6.5
#1: behavior, rack and head. #2: body
Bob LaNeve
6.5
3.5
First buck has older body wrinkled neck and ears swayed back and belly. Not to mention rack. Second buck is more streamline, straight body smaller rack
Dave McFarlin
8.5
5.5
I am just guessing
Tim Bein
4.5
6.5
Deer 1's coat gives him away. Same for deer 2.
John Bethany
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 is a big bodied animal with full neck and shoulders. The points alone don't make him an old buck, but they are relatively heavy. Buck 2 has a smaller body and he's not as heavy--but not bad
Bruce D. McIturff
6.5
5.5
Body size and appearance, location of hunts
Maxwell Nelson
7.5
5.5
Buck #1 The body and Roman nose on this buck, as well as antler growth, leads me to believe he's at his peak age of 7.5 years old. For buck #2, he is definitely mature body wise, so 5.5 years old.
Allen wade Ashe
1.5
4.5
Chest has dropped a little, back is starting to have some sagging
Kevin Winship
4.5
2.5
Buck #1: has good mass and width along with Body size, that looks like an older deer and Rob Nye has 3 years of Trail Cam Pics! Buck #2: Has a Slender Rack and Body, and his neck looks thin and long!
Dan Wilson
5.5
3.5
1 mature, prime but not past prime 2 body not yet mature
Ben Hallock
4.5
5.5
Just an educated guess
Greg Dow
6.5
3.5
#1: Fully mature Whitetail, neck runs straight into the briscuit. Pot belly, #2: more lean, seperation in between briscuit and neck. Antlers haven’t made the 20% increase jump from 3.5-4.5
Allen wade Ashe
3.5
1.5
Chest has not dropped, back is straight not sagged
Justin Ayers
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 - Heavy dear, large belly, 3 years of pictures. Buck 2 - smaller dear, smaller, framed
Bronly Morningstar
4.5
3.5
It is what it is. Both nice deer!
Dustin Fitzgerald
4.5
6.5
1st buck nose/neck 2nd buck belly sag
Josh Gaines
6.5
4.5
Highly developed front shoulders, tapers to smaller rear end showing its an older deer.
Michael Perrault
5.5
8.5
Buck one: BIG but doesn't have the sway back or gut for a buck any older in this area. Buck two: Nice deer but appears to be on the backside of mature using its rack and body size to guesstimate.
Tim Zimmerman
5.5
3.5
rack structure in #1 and lack of belly drop in #2
ARMAND TETREAULT
5.5
6.5
guess but size and movement mostly
J wobig
7.5
4.5
Logical age per explanations provided
Curtis Clark
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 having history and recognizing the buck tells me he had to be at least 2 probably 3 in order to know he was the same buck. Buck 2 because bucks tend to make their biggest jump between the ages
Christopher Jarvis
4.5
6.5
Buck one looks like a younger body. With good blood. Buck 2 has a big older body.
Max Patrucco
6.5
7.5
Sagging belly for deer 1. Never get to see deer 2 standing with his head up, but may be over the hill
Jason Ghiringhelli
6.5
2.5
Ok
Perry Smith
4.5
2.5
Went strictly off of body size since that was the only info I had.
Dave Echuk
6.5
2.5
Buck 1 is full bodied mature animal in his prime. Buck two is younger and not in his prime just yet by body size and thickness.
SHANE SURANSKI
4.5
4.5
Both deer's bodies appear mostly mature, judging by belly, brisket and their walk. But both faces nose and neck look more like they are not quite fully mature (over 5) my guess is 4.5 on both
Terry Allee
5.5
7.5
This is how old they look to me
Frank Luzzo
4.5
3.5
just guessing
Eric Meade
4.5
6.5
Just a guess.
John Kissella
4.5
6.5
Just a guess.
Craig Hart
5.5
4.5
guess
Jim Collins
7.5
6.5
Both are in their prime. Body size and form.
Melvin Cline
5.5
3.5
Hard to tell given #1 is Such a large deer, but given belly sag and overall appearance I felt like a mature 4.5-5.5 year whitetail
James Campbell
5.5
3.5
location and available food
Jim Hanratty
7.5
3.5
Based on saddle back and where neck come in. Also body to leg proportions
Charles Weiblen
4.5
3.5
3 years of picture on buck #1, I don't know about saskatchewan, but around me bucks older than 5 years are very rare. Buck #2 looked smaller, no belly sag, straight back
Charles Fowler
5.5
4.5
Deer 1 because of his pot belly and deer 2 because of his belly as wel. It just has not dropped as much as deer 1 had
Kyle Morgan
5.5
5.5
guess
Richard Rutt
4.5
3.5
Neither looks that old but deer1 had 3 years of picture and deer2 was passed the year before
Frank Arnwine
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 is well filled out, smart/experienced/cautious, appears to be in prime age and healthy. Buck #2 could either be really young, or really old. I chose young based on the brief view of behavior
Jim Langner
3.5
2.5
Both looked fairly young with no roman nose and no back or belly sagging. They looked in good shape and not too old.
William Nash
3.5
5.5
Way they look
dan winstedt
3.5
2.5
both are northern deer and dont really have huge frame bodies so i dont think either is very old
Cameron Wright
6.5
4.5
Although the visual information on buck 2 is limited, buck 1's shoulders are raised and a fallen middrift with 2-3 yrs of sightings leads me to 6.5. Buck 2 appears leaner with less shoulder raise.
BRYAN D JONES
6.5
3.5
Belly and build was my factor
SHANE SURANSKI
4.5
4.5
Both deer's bodies appear mostly mature, judging by belly, brisket and their walk. But both faces nose and neck look more like they are not quite fully mature (over 5) my guess is 4.5 on both
Bob Hunter
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 is just a bigger more mature deer. 3 years of camera pictures previously. Deer 2 is not as fully developed and had been passed up the previous year.
Don Trump Jr
4.5
3.5
Both cold weather deer have some body features of older but given the climate there i think much of the weight is for survival. neck and nose dont exhibit many of the signs of older deer to me.
Rob
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 has the belly sag of a good mature buck. Buck #2 looks to be filled in but not quite the sag yet.
Christopher Ludden
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 was noticed 2 years earlier but doesn't have any sign if decline, so likely 4.5 to 8.5, I split the diff. at 6.5. Buck 2 has a spread just outside the ears, typical of a 3.5.
Jeff Murphree
5.5
1.5
Muscling and neck girth
Jim Czodli
5.5
4.5
Main beams and body size
Rich Ernye
5.5
3.5
Tough to tell from the photos you provided on Buck 1 but I know for sure he is older than Buck 2 because Buck 2 has straighter lines and smaller head/nose area, so I went with those ages
mark webb
5.5
3.5
looking at the body size, drop in the stomach for the first one....2nd looks younger from body size tighter stomach and shoilders
Matt Schlink
6.5
4.5
Nice bucks
William Dean
5.5
4.5
just a guess
Robert Strachan
5.5
4.5
First deer looked older but did not have a sway back .second deer was younger.
RICHARD Baker
5.5
3.5
looks
Dennis Kluthe
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 has a huge body with a pot belly. Buck #2 is sleek like a racehorse.
roger calhoun
5.5
3.5
just felt right to me
Matthew Smith
5.5
7.5
Buck 1 is in his prime. Buck 2 looks to be on the decline with short tine length.
Shawn Mahood
5.5
6.5
Neither have a swaile in the back but number 2 is getting a bit of a paunch. #1 is still pretty trim through the belly so he is mature, but not older.
Chris Juvinall
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 - 3 years of watching...would guess he was somewhat mature when they started Buck 2 - seems younger, chest doesn't seem filled out like an old bruiser.
Martin Rethaber
6.5
3.5
Buck one looks has the big belly and body sag buck 2 looks more stocky and has a smaller head.
Eric B. Jones
3.5
5.5
Buck one all though has a smaller rack looks to me to be an older deer a lot more sag and grey hairs. Buck#2 looks like very little sag in belly and head looks younger.
Matt Schlink
6.5
1.5
3 yrs of photos. doesn't look overly old.
JOHN W FURNESS
4.5
4.5
BOTH HAVE FULL ROUNDED RUMPS, BOTH ARE THICK AND HEAVY IN THE SHOULDERS WHICH SHOW THEY ARE MATURE BUT THEY BOTH HAVE TUCKED BELLIES AND PRETTY TIGHT SKIN
Chris Tucker
6.5
4.5
Body size and antler development
Rick Hubbell
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 is showing signs of a roan/rounded nose and a slight sway in the back. Buck 2 still has a square/boxy head and a straight back.
Jeremy Bergeron
4.5
3.5
Body character with neck to chest
Shane Matherne
8.5
5.5
Tine length and head shape.
ALAN MCDONALD
4.5
3.5
BUCK 1 JUST DOES NOT HAVE A OLD DEER PROFILE AND ANTLERS ARE NOT REAL HEAVY.BUCK 2 IS EVEN YOUNGER STILL NOT TO PRIME.
Jon Turner
5.5
4.5
Going with the gut.
Chris Arena
7.5
3.5
Buck one free range with lots of mass pot belly and filmed for 3 years. Buck 2 in NY Don’t generally live too long. Smaller rack not huge mass and appears more slender.
Paul Ovadal
4.5
5.5
Just does not look like an old buck to me. Body not overly large, no belly sag, no tarsal staining to speak of. Second bucks body looks larger and thicker. Still doesn't look like a real old buck but
Rich spinosi
8.5
5.5
Judging by weight, mass of racks and overall body length of deer
Ryan heneghan
5.5
4.5
Chest, stomach
DEUCE32
5.5
4.5
JUST GUESSING WITHOUT ALL THE OLD TRAIL CAM PICS
B leonard
6.5
4.5
Just looking at the body types. The first buck was starting to have a little sway in his back. And just the 2nd bucks body size with a slight belt hang.
Jason Pinnow
6.5
3.5
The Canadian buck had 3 years of photos and behaved like an older deer (smart/ghost-like). NY buck was passed a year prior and smaller body size.
James Pauley
3.5
2.5
Face and overall size
Michael Altnether
4.5
2.5
My theory has always been the arch or lack of arch in the spine. That's what I look for anyway
Brent Gesler
6.5
3.5
Rack width, height and mass. Some body size.
Nate Hedrick
4.5
7.5
Body lines between the gut and back. Tightness of the skin, head size and shape. Location of the deer and antler growth.
James E Williams
4.5
5.5
First buck had to be at least 4.5. Straight back said to me that is what he was. 2nd buck looked older.
Deric morgando
5.5
3.5
Deer 1 has sloped nose overhanging trunk. Deer 2 still growing
Harry Delany
4.5
3.5
Chest not developed enough to be old old. Good genes, good antlers.
Craig Aldinger
4.5
3.5
Buck 1 has 3 years of video but face doesnt show older charactoristics. Buck 2 body still looks immature
keith nichols
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 is not as old as you think. no sag in the back and chest and nose do not look like a really old deer. Buck 2 still looks a little lean with a under developed neck and chest.
Craig ziecina
6.5
3.5
Rack size... im all about racks!
John still
5.5
3.5
Body proportion, antler bases compared to eye circumference
Kevin
5.5
4.5
Nice deer but even the older buck has no sag. Very healthy
John still
5.5
3.5
Body proportion, antler bases compared to eye circumference
Joseph Pinkerton
6.5
5.5
Greying and belly
John Ivanisin
5.5
4.5
Size of each buck, back droop and overall weight and body size.
Brandon Bennett
6.5
5.5
sagging belly, grey hair not dispersed, location vs size of body
Danny Bamberg
4.5
5.5
3 years of pics of buck one makes me think 4.5, because he doesn't look older than that. Buck 2 looks blocker in the face so looks slightly older.
Jason Odegard
3.5
3.5
Neither have any sag in their back, the first one may be a little older due to the horse face.
Stan Horsfall
4.5
3.5
body size and movement
Craig korycinski
5.5
3.5
Just taking a guess. I live in central ny and rarely see anything over 2.5 but have seen a few good ones. Hope I am right
Brent theede
6.5
4.5
Body size/characteristics
Craig Hopkins
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 had a photo history. Based on body size & shape, head shape, and ghost-like ways I believe he was 6.5. Buck #2 had great potential but his body shape and head size seem to show a 3.5 year old
Loren Paul Ameen
4.5
3.5
#1 mature buck.. Belly not big enough to be an old man. #2 nice buck in a few years.
Mike Santos
5.5
3.5
#1 Curved round nose. Big body. #2 Not so much but big deer. Nice rack
Stephen Eschiti
6.5
5.5
With 3 years of photos of Buck #1 and the body shape, he has to be 6 1/2. Buck #2 seems a little younger.
Mark Wimer
4.5
7.5
Antler mass and body coposition
Jeff Lane
4.5
4.5
Straight back but sagging belly's suggest some age but not more than 4.5. Buck #2 has graying around face with fuller face also, not long narrow nose,
Jim Potter
5.5
4.5
Buck #1. Thin/long neck. not a lot of sway in his back. Buck #2. Long neck. Smaller hind quarters. Solid deer though...
Mike Rigdon
4.5
3.5
Body sizes
russ Ackermann
5.5
3.5
Not sure...
kevin walsh
4.5
2.5
1st one watch for 3 years. And 2nd passed on d before.
gerald hatten
2.5
2.5
Good racks and genies but not a full mature buck
Carey Simon
6.5
5.5
Based on genetic history, the Canadian buck is big, but not atypical. Bourbons nose, thick neck. The NY buck lives in a wet, well fed zone, less mature but good genetics.
Bernie Barringer
6.5
3.5
body size, body structure and antlers
Chris Perius
6.5
3.5
#1 has the mature look and survival patterns. #2 is young but passed last year.
Ronald SWARTZ
5.5
4.5
Body and shoulder developement
Brad Johns
6.5
3.5
B1 looked like he had reached full antler potential but not going backwards. Body still looked muscular and massive, not elderly. B2 looked lack he was past the 2.5 yo body type but not 4.5.
Tony DaGuanno
4.5
5.5
The sagging belly on the buck # 2 makes me think he's at least 5.5 years old
Brett Dolecheck
4.5
5.5
Buck #1: big deer but that is normal for Canada Buck #2: also big deer but fits for a 5.5 year deer
Matt Spurgeon
3.5
5.5
Experience?
Jason Dale
6.5
5.5
Just a guess
Danny Rowan
7.5
4.5
#1. grey roman nose, mass and body size. #2. less mature than #1. could use another year or two.
steve buturlia
8.5
4.5
Experience
jeff waters
5.5
5.5
Buck# seems to have a sagging belly, Where #2 has a big belly but not saggy
George Brudin
4.5
4.5
Same age, different areas.
Lance Musser
7.5
4.5
buck #1 old buck and years of pics buck #2 passed in 2015 so guessing he was 3.5 then
Mitchel Lincoln
5.5
2.5
Buck one deep chest lots of points. No sway back or roman nose yet. Buck 2 not developed much body size yet.
John Chinuntdet
7.5
4.5
Body shape and size
John Milowe
4.5
5.5
#1 Alberta is great range for deer. large body and good genetics. seen past three seasons on cam. migrated from another area. #2 poor range, took longer for this buck to get to this stage,
lee mitchell
7.5
6.5
Body configuration.
Mark Wollert
7.5
3.5
Buck 1 has sway belly.,muscled up and thick chest. He would have probable starting to decline.Buck 2 is still young straight belly line and is not as thick. Still has slick look to him.
Jon
5.5
4.5
buck1- overall body dimensions and front end mass. Buck2, typical 4 yo below sage at year 5-7 deer seem to lean out in NY reverting back to a smaller body.
GUMP747
6.5
4.5
Buck one looks like he is as big as he can get and has been around the block. Buck two looks fit, fat, and extremely healthy. He's to perfect to be five or six.
karl kotimaki
6.5
3.5
buck one- 3ys of pics means at least four , body and face led me to 6 1/2 buck two appears much younger , but mature hence 3 1/2
Matthew Thomson
5.5
3.5
fully developed neck and short legs but no sway back. 2nd buck not fully developed neck.
Christopher Bernard
5.5
3.5
buck 1 has a full neck, big belly and developed back legs... buck 2 a little less developed in the back legs, chest and next not quiet full.
Bruce
4.5
7.5
Buck 1 seems to be entering his prime. No sway back or sag in neck. Could be younger. Buck 2 loose skin on neck, longer face, small sway in back.
Dennis Dalan
4.5
3.5
Buck#1- Straight back, not much of belly sag. A little staining on hocks. Legs look normal, not short. Buck#2- Straight back, no belly sag. No staining on hocks.
David Cardwell (txhunter58)
6.5
4.5
#1 looks at the top of his game. #2 looks like he hasn't peaked yet.
Ron Roehrick
1.5
4.5
hard to tell from photo.
Ron Roehrick
5.5
1.5
Body shape and antler mass, I figured 5.5 or 6.5.
boo
4.5
5.5
Canada vs a Southern Buck
Tony Supik
6.5
4.5
The first buck had a beer gut and sway back. Might even be older than 6.5. The 2nd buck was a tank of deer but look as it still a lot of muscle tone.
Jesse Lusty
6.5
4.5
Deer 1-6.5 due to the fact that he had 3 years of photos, you don't really know what a buck looks like from year to year until they reach three IMO. Deer 2: 4.5, has the blocky body but not hugebody
Eric Gobrecht
5.5
4.5
neck on canada buck blends right into chest, but northern deer are generally larger. hard to tell on NY buck but still think it's younger
Andre Baudouin
7.5
4.5
Buck # 1 presents all signs of a upper age class buck. Buck # 2 looks as if he could be 3.5 but I went with 4.5 because he was passed on to potentially gain more mass from prev. year.
David Fabian
5.5
5.5
buck 1 genetics buck 2 needed 5.5 years
Dave Gilbert
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 has a roman nose, squared off chest and a sagging belly, typical of an old deer Deer #2 is a mature deer with the same features but you said it was passed up on the previous year
Brad Martin
6.5
4.5
Judging body characteristics knowing the animal locations
John Cannon
5.5
6.5
.
Mark Beck
5.5
6.5
For a Canadian deer, buck one is not very large bodied.
Alan McGraw
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 looks mature, but not ancient. Buck 2 has flatter back and belly.... not quite there
Ed Sample
4.5
3.5
Just plain guessing, assuming a 17 point must be at least 4 years old. The 10 point doesn't look young, but not old either, so 3.5
Mark Green
5.5
4.5
buck 1 is early in his prime so went with 5 1/2 could be 6 1/2 buck 2 looks a little younger so went with 4 1/2 could be 51/2
Jim Bruce
6.5
4.5
body size
Barry Hughes
5.5
5.5
Just a guess
Greg Buchanan
6.5
6.5
Body size for the region, facial features, and body characteristics look similar
dave
8.5
4.5
f
Bob Cox
6.5
4.5
Roman nose on #1 with loose skin, dip in backbone. Buck #2 has straight back shorter nose legs still appear long
Kraig Kerns
4.5
3.5
Body size
Tyler Kinley
3.5
5.5
pure guess
Tim Heckenlively
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 has solid mass and several years of pics. Buck #2 looks young and if he was passed on last year, that explains a 3.5 year old deer.
Marcos Segura
5.5
3.5
1st buck had a big body. his neck was muscled his legs also looked shorter then his body due to his neck being developed. 2nd buck had a smaller body his neck and shoulders where not developed
Phillip Gaines
6.5
5.5
Large belly, sagging back, short nose. Buck #1 Belly, and less of a sagging back #2
Travis Bergeron
5.5
3.5
guess
Erik Gunning
8.5
6.5
total guess
Dennis E Hakes
4.5
3.5
Guess
Eric Zeisloft
6.5
4.5
Looks correct
James Calamaris
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 His rack came out of his heads and ran more horizontal and had gray in his muzzle and a heavy body. Buck #2 rack was more straight up out of his head and didn't have a gray muzzle.
Osborne, Steven
5.5
5.5
chest depth and short appearance to the nose
Kyle Meintzer
8.5
5.5
No Roman nose on Buck #1, but too much horn not to be at least 8.5 Thinner nose on Buck 2 and was passed on one year earlier.
douglas doughty
6.5
4.5
Buck #1: Bucks history, size, 6.5 or 7.5. Buck #2: Does not have the body mass of 5.5, but seems to have more maturity than a 3.5.
Andy Cobb
4.5
4.5
WAG
Greg Meyer
6.5
4.5
body size
Rich Kirschner
7.5
5.5
#1 body and rack look maxed out. #2 I think he was starting his peak maturity years
alex gintner
7.5
5.5
body size and rack size. or just a total guess!
Clif hallman
8.5
4.5
judging by neck sizes and body shape
KEITH ANDREWS
6.5
4.5
BODY SIZE
Jerryc
4.5
6.5
1st almost prime 2nd down hill side
Eric Hughes
7.5
4.5
3 years of pics & more mass on #1. #2 was passed up last year b/c shooter thought he was a 3.5 and wanted to see him make a big jump.
Josh salyards
6.5
4.5
Buck ones thick so he's past prime
Garth
5.5
3.5
I live in Az, we don't age deer here.
Greg Kush
5.5
5.5
Just a gut feeling that they are more alike in age than it seems.
Jonathan Robert Lander
7.5
5.5
Buck 1 has a very old face and very skittish he's been around a while. Buck 2 apears to be in his prime age of growth due to his region and his neck is at full mass.
Justin Kamps
6.5
5.5
Both look mature with good guts. Going off history with deer
Bernard Glade
6.5
5.5
Body size
Josh salyards
6.5
4.5
Buck ones thick so he's past prime
Will Rusch
5.5
3.5
Buck one: saggy belly, full neck Buck Two. No saggy belly but almost a full neck.
Robert Sihlanick
6.5
2.5
#1 face looks a little older and antlers look like they peaked and are starting to look smaller than what they were. #2 antlers are the young side.
Craig kaczmarek
6.5
4.5
#1 3 years of previous pictures #2 just a guess
Zach Kretsinger
3.5
5.5
The sag in the belly and the bulge in the bottom of the neck/chest area.
Steven Presnal
6.5
3.5
I see a lot of big bucks in WI
duane szymanowski
6.5
3.5
b
Jason Young
5.5
5.5
buck 1- 3 years of pics buck 2- big belly
yoyo ma
6.5
3.5
h
Rat Killer
5.5
4.5
Just a guess.
Paul Rostek
6.5
4.5
1st buck would need that many years at least to reach that size. 2nd looked like 4.5
Derek MacKay
6.5
3.5
Looking at the body structure and face. Buck 1 is very blocky and thick across chest. Buck 2 looks like typical 3.5 yr old deer that we see in our area
Dennis Stott
3.5
5.5
buck 1 short nose, close ears, short legs but walks high on his legs. buck 2 longer skinny nose, large ears wide apart on his head, very tall
Eric S. Midttun
5.5
7.5
ESP. #1 cant be younger than that. #2 looks to be on the decline.
sean witthar
4.5
6.5
just a WAG.....
Shane Nelson
6.5
5.5
Wild guess man. Aging deer by pictures is so inaccurate. 1st one looks barrel chested and in his prime. 2nd one was passed up and is probably as big as he will ever get.
Shane Nelson
6.5
5.5
Wild guess man. Aging deer by pictures is so inaccurate. 1st one looks barrel chested and in his prime. 2nd one was passed up and is probably as big as he will ever get.
Gregg Johnson
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 Large body plus small eyes compared to skull. Buck #2 Large body but large eyes compared to skull. My 2 cents. Good Luck to all.
Josh Anderson
8.5
4.5
1 buck, because of the 3 years of good pics and the extra points, they seem to develop extra points around 4.5, 2 Buck because he was passed the year before, he was probably a young 2.5 or 3.5
Rich Barnes
6.5
5.5
I don't think there's much separation in age between the two. They're both mature bucks.
Todd Triplett
6.5
3.5
Body shape.
Chris Stirn
5.5
2.5
Buck one had a huge chest. Buck two did not. Buck one had stckers everywhere.
Chris Stirn
5.5
2.5
Buck one had a huge chest. Buck two did not. Buck one had stckers everywhere.
Nick Witherite
6.5
4.5
Neck and body size
Jason
4.5
6.5
Body size
Bruce Kann
6.5
4.5
Intuition, since there is no good way just by looking at a picture.
Jon Guarino
5.5
6.5
Buck 1 not much back sag but rounded belly big chest and longish nose Buck 2 - back sag, smaller body = older
Kevin Banks
4.5
3.5
body configuration
Reggie Goins
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has the big neck and front shoulder..fully mature and in his prime like a 25 year old athlete. Buck 2 is filled out but not quite in his prime yet like a 18 year old athlete
Josh DeBolt
4.5
5.5
Buck 1 is a mature buck and well muscled, but the back and belly lines are clean. I didn't see much sag in the brisket. Buck 2 shows more sag to the belly and brisket, but has a fairly straight back.
jason brown
6.5
2.5
body size of buck 1 and buck to looks young
Mark Schroeder
5.5
4.5
Body size, neck belly
Kevin Wilber
5.5
3.5
years of hunting
Kevin Wilber
5.5
3.5
years of hunting
Bob ledrich
6.5
3.5
1 is older than 2
Stephen Hostetler
5.5
4.5
Full neck and filled out appearance, buck 1 had a slightly sagging belly and back.
Doug harr
5.5
4.5
Both over 3.5 so just luck after that.
Andrew Schaefer
5.5
4.5
Totally guessing here...
Sean Dennison
4.5
4.5
I think your trying to trick us into thinking these deer are different in age just on rack size, but I'm just guessing really!
Joseph J McIntosh
7.5
4.5
Total guesses
Ryan Philbrick
6.5
4.5
Both bucks look mature, but neither look like they're declining yet. Something about the face of the first buck makes me think he has a few extra years on him.
Randy Hoffman
5.5
4.5
Even for Oct #1 still didn't have a huge neck to chest and still had straight back.#2 was tougher coming from NY rack could throw you off and he may have only been 3.5 but he was a nice deer and body
roger mcgarry
5.5
4.5
body and saging belly
Mike Pentella
3.5
7.5
Buck #1 - 3 years of history and points. Buck #2 - small bodied.
Douglas R Hansen
8.5
6.5
body size
Randy Doyle
5.5
3.5
intuition
LTG
5.5
7.5
yep
Ryan
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 5 1/2 year old and buck 2 3 1/2 year old
Eric Stokebrand
7.5
3.5
just a guess
Mike C
8.5
4.5
Size, ass & number of points
Dale Lhotka
5.5
6.5
Guess based on look of body on both bucks
Rob Messner
6.5
4.5
Most Non-Typicals are at least 5. Buck 2 seems young for his body size.
Michael Eddy
5.5
3.5
Video history for Buck #1 and carriage. Carriage and body appearance for Buck #2
bryan dohn
6.5
3.5
gut feeling hehe
John Helgestad
4.5
5.5
#1 front quarters don't look much bigger than the hinds or I would have guessed older. #2 looked graying around the muzzle and just appeared older.
scott robinson
6.5
7.5
the deer i have aged are always older than the standard...2.5 and 3.5
Tommy
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 was probably noticed as a 3.5, so that would make him 5.5 in 2016. Same goes for buck 2 so that makes him 4.5
ERIC HASEL
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has "roman nose", sway back and thick torso from chest to back legs. Buck 2 lacks filled-out face of an older buck, shows no sway back and is think in the chest, but not further back.
Richard J. Harte
6.5
4.5
buck 1. Bucks normally don't grow non typical till at least 5 yrs. of age. Buck 2, doesn't have the sway back and still has that muscular front end of a mature buck.
Bruce Schantz
6.5
3.5
Basing it mostly on the location and food.
Oak Duke
4.5
4.5
#1 - Beautiful, heavy mature Canadian deer, long nose, big bases, paunch, antlers just about peaked. #2 Beautiful northern NY buck, gut, rack about what it would ever be.
Cory Mcatee
5.5
6.5
Just taking an educated guess of body structure for the region. The Saskatchewan buck doesn't have the bellie or lower neck line I'd expect from an older deer.
chris m schelkopf
6.5
5.5
Body size and previous history
Stephen Manukas
8.5
5.5
Deer 1 is an old giant. Deer 2 is mature, and for that region, a great buck antler-wise.
Brian Pendleton
6.5
3.5
Darren Banasch
7.5
5.5
#1 - years of trail camera photos plus some knowledge of northern forest deer. #2 - body size and antler weight.
Blane Baker
7.5
4.5
It's tough on the information given. Buck #1 is obviously ultra mature. He could be 6 though, or even older. Buck 2 is a solid buck, I just don't see that ultra maturity there.
Scott Engel
6.5
5.5
I made up answers that seemed reasonable based on the pics and the location of the deer.
Mark Borcherding
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 thick through neck and overall large bodied; Buck 2 looked mature for that region of the country, hasn't peaked yet, but a respectable buck nonetheless
Jay Jackson
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 appears to be at his best and buck #2 looks like he could put on a lot more inches if given another year.
Jason Ankrom
6.5
3.5
just my thought
Korey Wolfe
5.5
5.5
Without seeing pictures from the previous years, my guesses are just that...guesses!
Chris Bullington
7.5
3.5
First buck is mature and just a freak but tough to tell on those big northern bodies. No good neck to chest pics of second buck. Guessing at 3.5 comparing NY to PA bucks
DAVE RUCKLE
5.5
5.5
Just a hunch, hard to judge a Canadian buck because they are huge.
Rob Lane
6.5
4.5
Buck number one seemed to be fully mature, big belly, large head, blocky body. Deer #2 seemed to be mature as well but didn't seem to have as large and filled out a body as deer #1.
Scott Dillon
6.5
3.5
Size of body, weight, rack size
Chuck Baughn
5.5
7.5
Buck 1. Bulky buck, huge body, but doesn't look old. Buck 2. 7.5 body is bulky, brisket is saggy, R rack looks smaller, like its past its prime and the head is blocky and greying.
Jason D Rice
6.5
4.5
Buck usually peak 4.5-6.5
Jonathan Thomas
5.5
7.5
#1 Looks like he still has room to grow a little more. #2 looks older in the face and body is still good size, could be on the decline.
Mark Evans
6.5
4.5
#1 is thick through the neck and chest. Believe he would begin decline if not harvested. #2 is a big bodied deer but lacks the genetics to grow a massive rack. Still thin in the shoulder region.
Scott Bostian
6.5
4.5
buck #1 has a large gut definitely mature, but his back is fairly straight so not super old. Buck #2 new york buck similar to deer I see in michigan. chest and belly are straight across so middle aged
Edward J. Kerr
8.5
7.5
Winged it
Frank Shiflet
4.5
5.5
First buck had longer nose, smaller front shoulders and neck. Second buck had more sag in belly, larger front shoulders matching rear
Ron Fine
7.5
5.5
Just going by body size and location. Really just guessing to see how close I get.
Joe C
5.5
7.5
Buck 1 has alot of growth and wide antlers, not much mass. Buck 2 has a really big body.
Mark Kurdys
7.5
4.5
#1 had enough points to be a show stopper but was just enough beyond prime to not have ideal mass. #2 was passed up as a good but not great buck the year before, a low 8 pt that became a low 10.
joe garrity
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 has huge bulky body, still in prime both body and rack. Buck 2, honestly not quite sure.
JustinB
6.5
3.5
#1 - Body/Roman nose #2 Body/shorter nose in conjunction with size of rack
Jacob Grimsrud
6.5
5.5
Jeez, I don't know.
brian conrad
5.5
6.5
body size
Josh Hale
5.5
3.5
Buck one has a great rack but not the mass I expect on older deer but his back is starting to sag just a bit. Buck two has no sag in his back but has a full body also less white around his eyes.?
Jerry westfall
6.5
5.5
If Rob had 3 years of pics, deer had to be at least 4.5, with the size of rack and facial, head, body had to go with 6.5. But the SK deer have enormous bodies to begin with so hard to judge by that.
SBevan
6.5
3.5
head/roman nose on buck #1...Buck 2 is well fed and fat but body line looks to be a fairly young buck
Eric Begalske
4.5
2.5
Buck 1, northern deer seem to grow fairly fast, also think a wolf would get him before too many years. Buck 2, is pretty small even being a ten, no mass, short beams
Pat Carner
4.5
3.5
buck 2 doesnt look all that old while buck 1 looks a little older
Paul Natoli
6.5
5.5
Just guessing
Brian Mongeau
6.5
5.5
Both mature animals. Big bodies, sagging bellies. First looks at peak growth, second could've grew a little. Really, I have no clue and wouldn't pass up either.
Tony
5.5
7.5
Yep
Cody Hasson
6.5
4.5
Call it a bunch.
michael sullivan
3.5
4.5
just guessing all deer are different genes,feed,stress factors,and so on
Gregory Felty
5.5
3.5
Going off of body and antler size
Bob Crossman
5.5
4.5
Impossible to guess deer over 5.5, just a lucky guess. Both are mature and stabs at the dark.
tom mccaffery
5.5
7.5
The first buck looks younger to me. Knowing they had him on camera a few years I guessed 5.5 leaving 2nd buck older with 7.5 guess....aka wild ass guess
kelly harris
4.5
7.5
Muscle structure hump on back
Justin Michael Howell
6.5
4.5
Body structure
Jerry Brummett
4.5
4.5
not a lot of tine length or mass
Alex Hasenauer
6.5
4.5
Body structure and head position.
Troy Westrum
7.5
4.5
I use a modified WAG system that 50% of the time works 90% of the time. Once a deer reaches 3.5 years, unless I have a history with him, I just guessing by looking at him.
Justin M Staley
5.5
2.5
I'm guessing based on the deers faces. #1 has a well defined Roman nose and large diameter antler bases. #2 has a stubby nose and slopped forehead. Young looking face.
Mike McBlain
5.5
3.5
I think buck#1 is just past it's prime but still a really great buck. Big body and neck straight in to the body. Buck#2 is a good buck but I think it could Be younger based on body size and rump
Jeffrey Mees
3.5
6.5
1st buck follows the Hansen buck aging. they grow big in Canada quickly. #2 had to grow over more time to have a rack like that. NY isn't know for good genetics and his body is filled out well.
Ron Lech
6.5
6.5
Both are mature and over 4
Shawn Leonard
5.5
6.5
The first buck has the wide heavy front shoulders and roman nose and a sway in his back. I live in NY and the second buck could be 3.5 but I guess him a year older. Shawn
Nicholas Muche
5.5
6.5
Wild ass guess
John Bova
6.5
4.5
buck #1 Canadien deer buck#2 NY deer
al jamieson
4.5
3.5
just guessing
rich ludovina
7.5
4.5
just a guess
Jason Mitzel
5.5
3.5
Looking at belly, back line, and where the neck meets the body and the brisket
Darren Condie
6.5
5.5
body appearance, antler growth, facial appearance
Adam Augustine
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 looks like he is at his peak potential which in my uneducated estimate is 6.5. Buck 2 looks like he is mature but has some more potential for growth.
Michael Logan
5.5
4.5
I think they are both at least 4 but hard to tell when older than 4
Greg Frederick
4.5
5.5
Body Structure with location considered
Ryan Wooldridge
4.5
6.5
1. belly sag but not much sway on back 2. belly sag and swayed back at least 5.5
Dennis G Hughes
4.5
3.5
Stature and the belly lines.
James Spears
6.5
5.5
Info given, location, and body characteristics.
Rick Holland
6.5
4.5
Buck #1... I chose 6.5 on your Saskatchewan based on the triangle-shaped head, the manner that the neck disappears into it's lower check; depth of its chest, and it's sway back.
Ken Corrigan
6.5
5.5
Length divided by mass times pie equals age.
mike szarlan
4.5
6.5
Body mass
Ike Henry
7.5
5.5
First buck looks like he's just starting to decline in tine length and body size. Second buck looks vital and large, but knowing Pat, having killed good bucks, I can see him passing him at 4.5
Jake Ensign
7.5
7.5
antler size, body mass characteristics
Jeff Wolters
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 heavy body, thick rack-northern climate Buck #2- not as heavy as #1- less mass on the rack
Greg white
5.5
3.5
Just guessing
Scott Cowles
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 needed age to come the buck he is. Buck 2 was pasted previous year at 3 1/2 years
Matthew Matchett
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 Long snout, Neck blends in to brisket, Sway . Buck 2 shorter nose, Big body but still is mor streamlined.
Brett Huisman
7.5
3.5
Body and Region
maurice zeinstra
5.5
4.5
Mass of antler base along with body shape. They are not sway belly yet.
Dylan Smith
6.5
3.5
Buck 1: I have a hard time judging after 5 unless I have photo history so I am guessing here that Rob had pics since 3 that he was able to distinguish as him. Buck 2: Has that short looking face/body
Todd Jahn
7.5
5.5
Going by body size
Bill Wright
4.5
3.5
#1, I know Canadian deer are usually larger so if in WI I might have said 5.5 he did not seem to have a blunted nose but blocky body. #2, Looks like most 3.5's in my area.
Dennis Duckert
6.5
4.5
Very difficult to age after 3.5 years. Both bucks in their prime, but #1 appears a little older.
Blake Younggren
7.5
3.5
Tried to judge body features, taking into affect the regions where the deer lived.
Paul M
2.5
3.5
body shape
Jeff T Valovich
4.5
6.5
body sizes and proportion... 2nd deer antlers look to be in decline
Joe Minich
6.5
3.5
I believe buck aging on the hoof beyond age 2.5 is basically equivalent to palm reading, and as such, these are complete guesses.
Shannon Clifton
6.5
5.5
Mostly guesses, never seen anything close to either one.
Don Walston
6.5
5.5
It's a S. W. A. G. since the pics and angles were less than perfect for aging.
Mitch O'Neil
5.5
4.5
Solid back w/0 sway for both bucks - still in their prime. Buck 1 on camera for 3 years-figure he was 2 1/2 when he looked decent enough to begin keeping track of him. Buck #2 was 2 young last yr
Christian Harrington
6.5
4.5
a magician never gives away his secrets...
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6.5
4.5
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Don Ward
6.5
4.5
Wild guess mostly. Face, belly, overall movement and look and structure.
Ron Rockwell
6.5
3.5
Buck number one we know was at least 3 from trail CAM photos and had to be 2-3 years old when he first showed up on camera. Buck 2 had to me 2 when he was passed the prior year so just added 1 1/2 yea
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