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Deer Aging Contest 2016

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Distribution of Age Guesses for Buck 1

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Distribution of Age Guesses for Buck 2

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Buck 1
Buck 2
Greg Spurgeon
5.5
8.5
WAG on both! Guessing the 2nd buck is older and on the decline, but could be simply poor genetics.
bz
6.5
4.5
gut
danny essary
3.5
5.5
#1 slender face #2 roman nose
Gregg Moorman
5.5
4.5
Both have rectangular bodies but #1 has sagging belly which to me that his chest is bigger than you think, #2 rectangular body but still a little more athletic so to speak and younger face
Wyatt Ewald
4.5
6.5
No. 1 looks young, neck small, horns narrow, hips same size as shoulders, face not mature, etc. No. 2 looks mature, could be 5.5, but looks in his prime . Large shoulders, neck blends to brisket.
Oddmund Dale
3.5
3.5
Big round eyes, not very deep chest and belly, nose look like 3,5 year old on both.
Jeff Brewbaker
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 mass and body shape. Buck 2 still had no belly sag.
Bill Pfingsten
3.5
5.5
Brisket on buck one.
ron kreutzer
6.5
3.5
Saggy belly bit of back sway NBR 1 Neck flow into chest long body NBR 2
Ricky Richardson
6.5
4.5
Lucky guess
Russ Fritsch
7.5
3.5
Belly sag, chest depth, gait
Jacob Alberda
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 has a sagging belly, which make me believe he is older than 5.5 years old. Buck 2 has a "long" slender body which leads me to guess 4.5.
Adam Herrmann
6.5
5.5
Buck #1 Neck and stomach are the reason for my guess. Buck #2 Pretty much the same as the first guess.
Kevin Foerster
6.5
8.5
Both bucks have kickers, typically starting around age 4. The first deer is a brute of a body and still in his prime. Either 5.5 or 6.5. the 2nd buck is either 3.5 or over the hill.
David Lane
3.5
7.5
Its a guess
Loren Larson
5.5
4.5
Buck One has a Full Large Belly, and little mature aging in the face and head. Buck two has a flat belly line, not proud nor receding like 3.5 year would
Nicholas Hluchy
5.5
3.5
Buck 1:
Ron Boulay
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 has good mass on neck/chest/antlers, droopy brisket. Buck 2 descent mass on neck, and chest looks fit close to prime.
Tony Cleveland
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 appears fully mature but no signs of being past his prime yet. Buck 2 appears mature but not quite as thick and stocky yet as a buck in his prime.
J forbes
3.5
4.5
#2 squared off body but not sagging too low like a 5yr old.
Randy Leonard
4.5
5.5
Don't know how to age one but taking a guess based on the noses.
Randy Moeser
6.5
3.5
1st deer looks stockier in hind quarter, 2nd looked younger-higher back
Steven Osborne
5.5
3.5
guesses. that's it flat out guessing. oz
JIM DEANGELO
6.5
5.5
Face wise and body wise they don't look that old, antlers have good mass which takes some years.
chuck cramer
4.5
3.5
Body lines, facial color, number of sightings, antler mass
Adam Fitzgerald
6.5
4.5
Buck one is older but not past his prime. #2 seems to be just entering his prime
Robert S. Hageter Jr.
6.5
4.5
The body, lower hanging gut, antler mass and low hanging brisket on buck #1 makes me believe that he is 6.5. Good antler mass, but body size and brisket not as low hanging on buck #2.
Andy Carpenter
5.5
3.5
the first buck looks to be in his prime ,perhaps towards the end of prime, the second looks to be approaching prime, a year or 2 off.
Drew McQuarie
5.5
3.5
Buck one is at his prime and buck two needs a couple years to see his maximum
Troy Mason
7.5
5.5
Buck One is in his first year of decline. Buck Two is in his perfect prime.
Craig Lathrop
4.5
4.5
Both are mature bucks, look at neck line to brisket, filled in chest, but not a sagging back.
Gary Alford
7.5
6.5
We do not see too many big mid-western sized whitetails in central N.Y. I basically looked at their antler growth (mass) , head, paunch and hide quarters. Buck # 2 didn't seem that old to me...
Cameron Arthur
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 is a very big deer. Heavy mass. Carries his mass out also. Buck 2 has decent mass at his base but doesn't carry it out and also has short tines.
Rocky Senatore
5.5
6.5
Neither buck looks "beyond Prime" so I figure they are under 7 years. but both are mature. #1 looks younger, less boxy body shape, #2 has a longer, wider head.
William Spear
4.5
6.5
Just took a SWAG.
Mark H Parah
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 - Big belly and neck Buck 2 - Long body, solid frame
jason brown
5.5
3.5
guessing by body on 1st buck mass on 2nd buck isn't very heavy
Ryan Caffrey
5.5
4.5
1. Relative short face, roman nose. Belly sags a little. Squat body. 2. Narrower hind quarter than at shoulders. Struts like an older deer but knows hes still not boss in the area.
David Brothers
6.5
5.5
Buck 1: Antler mass 6.5+. Head development, blocky body, short legs point to fully mature at least 6.5. Buck #2 Good bases & beam length shows me 5.5 along with square body
Don Walston
5.5
4.5
S W A G
michael pietrzykowski
6.5
4.5
1st old deer. 2nd looks like 1 I shot that was 4.5.
Jake Miller
5.5
4.5
Buck 1: Bulging belly, good antler mass Buck 2: Trim body style, broad chest but a slightly narrower hind quarter, indicative of a younger deer.
Brad Schultz
4.5
3.5
Random guess never having an experience with a Kansas Buck in November.
Phil navas
7.5
5.5
Buck 1 hide has wrinkles Buck 2 mature looks younger than 1st
Garrett Melton
4.5
3.5
I picked a answer
Tanner Hess
3.5
4.5
just a hoof guess
Greg Snowden
6.5
3.5
had to pick a number, gut feeling +1 on each
Joseph Smith
4.5
3.5
Jeffrey Boyer
4.5
3.5
Just guessing.
Rob Burkart
4.5
4.5
Both bucks have straight backs and no pot bellies. Seems 4.5 to me.
michael hunter
5.5
4.5
body structure
4.5
3.5
body make up and mass
Jacob wolffram
6.5
5.5
Deer 1 has a swayed back hanging stomach and his neck goes deep into his brisket. But 2 has some of the same features just not as defined.
George N. Storm
5.5
4.5
Deer 1 has lots of mass, and a blocky, graying face that comes with some age. he is mature and in his prime. Deer 2 does not yet have the crazy mass of deer 1 and his face is more slender.
John Chinuntdet
6.5
4.5
Body shape and look of face
TJ Ash
3.5
5.5
#1 tries to fool ya with that rack but IMO all else points otherwise. The exact opposite on #2 body traits scream fully mature
jason liles
5.5
4.5
buck no.1 has tons of mass and trashy looking, usually comes with age but still not too old looking in the face. buck no.2 is mature and has good mass deep chest but not overly old looking
Ryan Dunne
5.5
4.5
#1 has a little more sag and bigger neck, plus all the non typical points #2 is a little sleeker and not quite as grey
Steve Kay
2.5
4.5
Buck 1 has a short snout, I believe it just has phenomenal genes. Buck 2 looks to be an older deer flat back.
Michael J. Bittner
5.5
4.5
Just a wild guess
Mike Lawrence
3.5
4.5
Deer 1 has the body symmetry, face, and movements of a 3.5-albeit well-nourished. Deer 2 has the narrowing withers and hint of gray that I'd say is a year older.
Mike Lawrence
3.5
4.5
Deer 1 has the body symmetry, face, and movements of a 3.5-albeit well-nourished. Deer 2 has the narrowing withers and hint of gray that I'd say is a year older.
MB Mink
3.5
5.5
# 1 body more sleek and face is not as gray. # 2 face is more gray and has marking from fighting.
Daniel T Porter
4.5
3.5
November timeframe, so we are dealing with swollen bucks! May look a little older than they really are.
JEREMY FORBORD
3.5
4.5
Never seen a Kansas buck in person so just random guesses.
Jim
4.5
3.5
I think the first in rut therefore looks bigger.
Jason Baird
5.5
4.5
real hard to tell by both pics and video. not sure anyone can tell by these two pics/video but this is my guess just by antler size and mass.
Ron Scott
5.5
4.5
just a guess
Michael T. Gordon
3.5
3.5
Just doesn't seem that either buck would be older than 3.5 although buck #1 has decent mass, I just don't feel he's is any older. Both bucks' bodies appear to be the size I would expect for 3.5
Christian Packi
5.5
3.5
Body appearence marks and the Endings of the antlers
Aaron proffitt
5.5
3.5
#1 sagging belly and massive overall size #2 straight belly, neck flows into shoulder smoothly
Tim swihart
4.5
4.5
Neither deer are real old. Both have straight backs and longer nose
Justin Broughton
3.5
2.5
Both deer exhibit characteristics of potentially younger Midwestern bucks.
Rob Messner
4.5
5.5
seems right
Darren
6.5
3.5
Just looks right!
Brandon Bennett
5.5
5.5
gut and back line
Michael Guldmann Petersen
4.5
3.5
Body size and posture
jim Hufnagle
6.5
5.5
body shape
Red
6.5
4.5
just a wild guess
Stewart Hartman
3.5
1.5
Rational Guess
Eric wittak
6.5
5.5
Body size and fitness
Nate
8.5
4.5
Body, antlers, head.
Tom Glass
6.5
3.5
1 big neck gut is hanging 2 big need still in pretty good shape
Wes
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 - Neck size larger than larger than what would blend with body symmetry, Rear haunch rounded and not flat. Buck 2 - Neck symmetry in line with body, belly straight and rear haunch flat.
Dan Christensen
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has a bit of "sag" in his belly, which I think puts him at 5.5; otherwise looks vigorous. Buck 2 still has a fully horizontal belly line and appears less filled out overall.
Keith Edwards
6.5
4.5
#1 Buck has the Roman nose and saggy belly. #2 Buck has the size, but is still fit.
Charles Mogle
6.5
3.5
First buck has a lot antler mass and a sagging belly, characteristics of an older deer. Deer number 2 has nice antlers but neck and belly do not look like an older buck.
Brad Lambert
4.5
3.5
Nice horns but their bodies don't look that old
Tyler ball
5.5
5.5
Mature body but not swayed backed
Tyler ball
5.5
1.5
Huge rack but body doesn't appear to be too old.
DS
4.5
6.5
1 looks bigger than 3.5
dean josephson
7.5
3.5
first buck has big tummy and slightly swayed back,second buck looks almost mature
Jeremiah Flannery
4.5
3.5
looks
jerry walker
2.5
4.5
the first looked young and the second more mature
Brad Ruks
5.5
4.5
Buck one is a stud, Short legs sagging stomach and his neck rolls right into the body. Buck two tight stomach and smaller hind end.
burton hulett
4.5
6.5
I think the second buck was a older buck
Steven Compton
4.5
2.5
buck 1 had more mase at the tips of his head and taller tines and buck2 is a little younger than buck 1 so thats why i think on buck 1 is aolder buck
Max Wegner
3.5
2.5
The first buck as compared to the second one had a more rounded noise and I believe was more swollen therefore appearing to be older than he really is. The second buck seemed thinner so I went younger
David Cardwell
6.5
4.5
Both great bucks, 1 is definitely older, by 1 or 2 years, I guess 2
dave battreall
4.5
3.5
antler mass thick body, long legs no gray in face but he a large deer
Richard Lehnhoff
4.5
3.5
1. Older deer with a bit of a pot belly and sway back. 2. Younger deer without the pot belly and sway back.
Nathan Earhart
4.5
6.5
Buck 1 seems more rounded in the body, not as mature of a face as buck 2, whose body in certainly squared off.
Amy Simmons
3.5
8.5
#1 looked like a race horse but was carrying a lot of antler mass. #2 looks to be an old deer past its prime.
erik simmons
3.5
8.5
#1 didn't have the pot-belly of bucks older than 3.5 but he appeared in good health and antlers were still carrying a lot of mass. #2 looks to be an old deer past its prime.
erik simmons
3.5
1.5
He didn't have the pot-belly of bucks older than 3.5 but he appeared in good health and antlers were still carrying a lot of mass. It didn't appear to be an old deer in decline.
Fred Suggs
5.5
4.5
I believe that buck 1 is at least 5.5, probably older, given the way his neck meets his shoulders and the sage in his belly. Buck 2 does not appear to have any sag, but instead, is flat along belly
Phil Kellam
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 just does not look that old of a deer looking at his body features. Just some good genetics.
Bob Daniels
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 had the mass that takes time, but his body weight, lack of grey facial hair, and daylight appearance with does keeps me from aging him any higher. Buck #2 was more slender with less mass.
Brian Mongeau
5.5
6.5
Other than mature animals, no reason, just a guess.
floyd skinner
4.5
3.5
how big the body
Paul Moriconi
6.5
4.5
The first buck is mature but not showing signs of advanced age and decline. The second buck is large bodied but has no pot belly and his bases are not very thick.
Kenny Hoggatt
4.5
4.5
body weight
Tim Zimmerman
4.5
3.5
Neither has belly drop, sagging backs or a lot of white in the face
Robert Norville Jr.
5.5
4.5
straight back little belly sag on 1st and 2nd deer looked young no belly sag .
Tommy Johnson
3.5
6.5
Buck 1. the clue "never been seen before" must mean something. with that bucks don't get old roaming around leaving their sanctuary. Buck 2. past up many years. Good enough for Pat, though!
Dan Vavreck
7.5
4.5
Buck #1 looks like an old man, I think the crazy points show up more in older deer. I also think that him being around rarely makes him older, those guys tend to have larger ranges and don't staylong
Kelly Wilhelmi
5.5
8.5
Buck one, even though he has a pretty massive rack, he lacks body size and body mass. His neck and shoulders are not as big as a more mature deer. Buck number two has these characteristics unlike #1
Gregory Hammell
4.5
8.5
Health of antlers and condition of deer
Todd Kapsner
6.5
4.5
Just a guess
Jacob
7.5
5.5
Buck #1 appears to be a buck well into maturity with a large sagging brisket and overall large body. Buck #2 appears to be slightly younger, but still a fully developed body and fully mature.
Steve Presnal
6.5
3.5
Based on deer seen in WI
Lance Nogosek
7.5
8.5
Buck one has a ton of mass and has a lot of trash on his rack typically seen on 5+ older deer pending genetics. Buck 2 looks really old and appears to be on the down hill.
Clint Fagen
5.5
4.5
Body condition and geographical history
Jon Guarino
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 - slight sag to the back long roman nose Buck 2 - no sag, smaller body, shorter nose
Justin
3.5
4.5
Buck one seemed big, but shoulders and nose were smaller. Buck two seemed to have more shoulders
bart
4.5
8.5
buck 1 not fully matured drinking whole bunch of Cimarron River mineral rich water...... buck 2 old dude seen him for several years n passed on him, knew Pat would put him down sooner or later....
Bryan Hajny
7.5
4.5
So tough in the Southern plains compared to Midwest. First deer had the fat roles on neck, starting abnormalities on the rack. Second deer is to streamlined in body to be real old.
STEPHEN VANZANT
6.5
6.5
They both look old but not too old.
Kevin
5.5
4.5
Looking at the body features, heads especially.
Joe
6.5
5.5
Buck 1 appears to have slightly more greying occuring.
Jack Hershberger
7.5
5.5
Buck#1 great mass and lots of junk. pot belly. Buck#2 good mass not as blocky but mature.
Mark Gincley
6.5
4.5
No rational just a guess
mark thomas
5.5
3.5
Broad chest, droopy belly. for buck 1 buck two much more streamlined and not filled out as much
ramie walton
7.5
5.5
based on body size and the shape of their heads this is what I came up with
Roland Colago
7.5
3.5
distance between the antlers and just guessing.
Dylan Smith
6.5
8.5
Buck #1 more for mass and good genetics. Basing on bucks I have inventoried over the years. I think Buck #2 might be a trick as he looks to be older possibly on his way downhill, poor genetics.
tyson7
5.5
4.5
purely maturity
Mark Brisbin
6.5
4.5
I look at their posture, overall mass, brow tine length and coat colors.
Philip Latteier
6.5
4.5
A lot of mass, you need age for mass. #2 good mature body, not excessive on the mass.
Todd Emeigh
6.5
6.5
Both have mature looking bodies.
Jim mcCracken
6.5
2.5
Buck 1 very dominate, Buck 2 horns too heavy for a year and a half old, Buck 1 if he's younger than 6.5 he is eating great minerals etc,
Jerry Chmielewski
5.5
6.5
face of each deer
Reggie Goins
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has all the features of a mature deer, Buck 2 isnt quite mature even though he is heavy
jesse karpinski
6.5
4.5
body shape and size
Kent Heppe
7.5
4.5
Buck #1 - gray muzzle and white tear ducts Buck #2 - more alert.
Bruce Kann
5.5
6.5
Just cause!
Darlene Ostrosky
3.5
2.5
The first buck looked a bit older face & body-wise. Second buck had a younger looking body & thinner face style to me.
Mark Wehrmann
4.5
5.5
Some bucks can achieve large racks before their bodies become the same. Hard to see but their hind quarters look like a middle age bucks. Just like people, they come in all shapes and sizes
Scott Easley
7.5
4.5
Just by looking at the body characteristics.
Jeff Bernhardt
5.5
3.5
Based On Body Type
Ron Cash
3.5
3.5
Not an obvious answer.
GARY WHITED
4.5
5.5
buck 1 although large rack has smaller chest/belly and somewhat slimmer nose than buck 2
Owen D
4.5
3.5
that's what they look like
Zack Searcy
5.5
3.5
Best Guess
David Pasky
6.5
4.5
As a measurer for P&Y and Ohio Big Buck. I have seen deer like these.
shawn kiffe
5.5
4.5
Buck one has the sagging belly and lots of mass with extra stuff. Buck 2 has a nice wide frame but not the older looking body.
Scott Silvers
3.5
5.5
First buck body looks smaller, not a good look from video or picture, and beam length about normal for a 3.5. Buck 2 has what appears to be longer beams and the what looks to me like a mature body.
Mike Baumann
3.5
3.5
Really good genetics on this ranch.
Jake Leibke
4.5
5.5
shoulder and body size looks like mature deer but maybe not super old.
Greg Moore
4.5
4.5
Neither look "old" to me. I almost want to put buck #1 at 3.5
Ronald Galle
5.5
4.5
both mature bucks
Keith
5.5
4.5
Buck #1 has a "full" body, good muscle development, good depth to the brisket, and a lot of mass in the rack. Buck #2 appears to have a long body that can make things more difficult to judge.
Justus Nielsen
5.5
3.5
The first buck has a much bigger potbelly and his white line goes up his side more which i have seen common in older deer. The second buck is skinnier and its white belly line is lower.
Carole Larsen
6.5
3.5
From my years of experience it is my educated guess.
Chris Taylor
3.5
3.5
Putting Rack aside they both look like 3.5 year old deer to me.
Matt Lochner
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 could be older than 5.5yrs, but it's pretty tough to tell by that age. Buck #2 is certainly over 2.5, but still has some growing to do, which makes him most likely a 3.5yr old.
Trip Brown
6.5
4.5
Deer have larger bodies in Kansas; therefore, they appear older than they are.
Matthew Perrault
4.5
3.5
Body on the first is bigger and more stocky.
AARON WICKMANN
7.5
5.5
#1 stocky bull like appearance sway back, block head all the signs of a old deer. #2 not as old as #1 still has good age on him
Brian Wells
6.5
5.5
All the signs of mature deer
Rick Germano
6.5
5.5
1st deer has a lot of gray on the face and a pretty good sag in his belly area. plus little sway in the back would tell me that this deer is up there in age.
Matt Michalik
7.5
5.5
FIrst deer loose skin around neck, non typical points growing off of main frame indicitve of older deer. Second deer main fram 8, big bodied but still room to grow.
Joe S
4.5
3.5
body condition
jody palmer
5.5
6.5
both deer have sagging paunchs and roman noses
Joe McFadden
5.5
4.5
Antlers, body shape.
Henry Eddy
4.5
3.5
Looking at the neck for "chicken-ness" and the stomach line for the "gut". First deer is older, not old. Has a gut starting. Neck is flabbier Second deer is very healthy and well fed but not old.
bawana
4.5
3.5
Neither deer has that "old buck" look to them, basing age more on antler mass.
David L Moore
6.5
4.5
buck #1 showing grey muzzle; buck #2 looked younger
Kraig Wiser
5.5
7.5
Wild articulated guess since I'm a whitetail hunter wanabe.
Nick Rus
7.5
4.5
Buck 1: any age over 6.5 wouldn't surprise me. buck 2 could be 4.5 but his body seemed a little bigger than that to me.
Daniel Crawford
4.5
3.5
looking at the neck and the face trying to relate as to age both bucks were awesome deer and great trophies
Ronald Jacobson
3.5
3.5
Straight backs and high bellys
Randy Routier
6.5
5.5
Just a guess
ernie kent
5.5
4.5
guess
Jerry Westfall
5.5
4.5
I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express!
Shane Friesz
5.5
3.5
Face and body shapes and colors
David Sipple
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 No taper from neck to chest. Same size. Loose / wrinkly neck skin. Stomach sags but no sway in back. Buck 2 = Back and stomach lines appear parallel. Neck noticeably smaller than chest.
Adam Augustine
6.5
4.5
All I can say for sure is that they are better than 1.5.
Kirk Huckaby
4.5
6.5
Old enough!!
Stanley Yocius
4.5
3.5
#1---no gray in the face and no sway in the back...I'm going with 4.5 #2--- big body but no sway and no mass, short points...this could very well be a big 2.5 yo
Kelly Devine
4.5
7.5
just a guess
Ty Miller
5.5
3.5
Muscle Tone and shape of their belly
Charles Woodling
5.5
4.5
Buck one has a short snout, big chest with shoulders prominent. Also shows a sagging belly. Buck 2 is younger. Has the bigger chest and shoulders but looks more sleek in other ways.
Tom McCaffery
5.5
7.5
I believe buck #2 is older and on the decline as far as rack score. Also, by the look of his muzzle he appears to be an older deer.
jason lyon
6.5
4.5
because that is how old I think they are
Bob MacPherson
7.5
4.5
I've bowhunted for 27 years and seen a lot of deer. Big body, really good mass, big belly. the 2nd deer is going to be a dandy. no mass yet. good body and he doesn't look mature.
Roger Spiegeleire
1.5
4.5
Their body type identifies their ares
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4.5
6.5
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Eric Houston
3.5
5.5
Buck#1 did not posses the body structure of an older deer to me. he seemed leaner and thinner in the neck area. Buck#2 possessed a thicker body and neck with a deeper brisket and roman nose
Bill van buskirk
5.5
6.5
First buck.shape of body,face coloration and no typical type frame. Second buck.body size and condition of buck
dave perrion
5.5
4.5
buck one , has long nose and grey on his face and his back seems to sag a bit. number 2 looks younger than first one. Just a guess.
Chris Whitcomb
4.5
6.5
Just a guess
John Frederick
2.5
4.5
Shame on Bowsite for illustrating a "deer hunt" over a pile of corn! Both deer probably got so big from a diet of corn bait.
bryan griggs
7.5
3.5
buck 1 grey looking face big belly buck 2 no belly and short rack and tines
robert
5.5
2.5
Head size . And neck
Don Cicero
6.5
8.5
Buck 1 looks to be in his prime. Buck 2 looks to be past his prime. I have never hunted in Kansas so I can only go on deer I have seen in Alabama.
Lewis Walker
6.5
4.5
Body size and movements and a shot in the dark
Nick Rus
7.5
5.5
On the first buck I wish there was a 6.5+ choice because no age above that would surprise me. You can tell the second buck has just really gotten into his prime years.
Emile Dominique IV
5.5
6.5
Just a guess.
David Koeppel
5.5
3.5
Body characteristics, attitude.
Russell Taylor
5.5
5.5
I'm thinking these bucks were picked to teach us a lesson on genetics and/or habitat. I'm guessing they're the same age.
edward olona
6.5
3.5
buck 1 has good body mass the buck has not started to sway very much horns are deforming buck 2 has smaller body mass than the first back is straight with considerably smaller mass in the chest area
Dave Stone
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 looked to be between 4.5 to 6.5 so I split the difference. Decision was based more on body appearance. Buck 2 may be older, and most likely would be in another state. Again, body structure.
Alex Gintner
5.5
6.5
Just a guess
Rob White
6.5
5.5
antler base/overall frontal appearance.
Paul Blake
6.5
3.5
The first buck, having the extra points, normally put him in a class of over 5.5yo, and the second buck looked very similar to one that my father shot two years ago, and it was close to 3.5yo
Curtis E. Walker
4.5
5.5
Buck 2 has a little more gray around his muzzle
robert templeton
5.5
4.5
Swayed back and little pot belly, huge neck down to top of legs. Buck #2 back was pretty straight, belly was tight, big neck this was a mature buck, but not that old.
LungBuster
4.5
5.5
They look about that old.
Dave McFarlin
8.5
5.5
they look older than anything I've shot. just a guess
Tim McClure
4.5
6.5
The first buck hasn't been alive very long if he's never been seen.
Michale Smith
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 appears older than #2 due to his body size and muscle tone. Buck #2 has more muscle mass and his facial features are those of a younger buck.
Michale Smith
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 appears older than #2 due to his body size and muscle tone. Buck #2 has more muscle mass and his facial features are those of a younger buck.
Dave Sawyer
5.5
4.5
just looking at the bodies and not the racks. No gray in either muzzle. #1 looks to be rutting. #2 maybe prerut.
Keith Machiela
4.5
5.5
I have no idea!
Drew Honegger
5.5
4.5
I'm horrible at this. Buck 1 - sometimes non-typical genes can make a buck look older than he is, I'm saying he's 5 due to the size of his bases Buck 2 - 4.5, just a hunch, but he could be 7 :)
Dale Joyce
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 is the King, Buck 2 just looks younger.
Richard L. Diggs
3.5
3.5
Both deer are mature enough to have nice antler growth but neither have the paunch or Roman nose of a mature deer.
Roy Cummings
6.5
4.5
My guess is based on antler mass.
Joe
1.5
3.5
Looks like a thoroughbred with antlers. Lean without any belly sag.
Joe
4.5
1.5
Still fairly straight across the back, not as pot bellied as an older buck tends to get. Moves easily, older bucks tend to be somewhat arthritic or hobbled up from injuries.
Daniel J Sarbacker
4.5
3.5
I'm guessing. I have never looked at a Kansas deer on the hoof. Chests are huge, but don't have much sway in the back. They still look like they're on the way up, not peaking or in decline.
Ron Schwartz
6.5
4.5
Body characteristics
Douglas Lee Owens
5.5
3.5
How they looked and moved and an experienced guesstimate.
Darwin Boelk
3.5
1.5
Looking at the hind quarters, paunch and depth of chest.
Tony G Olier
4.5
5.5
Just a swag after studying their snouts. To me, all other aging features appear the same between the two buck.
Kevin Brown
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 is a mature deer in his prime. His face is getting grey, his belly is starting to sag and his skin is starting to wrinkle. Buck #2 is also a mature deer but appears a bit younger.
Dennis Razza
6.5
7.5
Guess
Todd Estrela
6.5
4.5
Buck #1- shoulders are wider then the rear quarters, saggy belly and sway back and also it's the first time he has been seen shows that he was very elusive and smart just could not resist that feed...
Lee J
3.5
4.5
estimating the body sizes
Timothy R Dirks
4.5
4.5
Because that's how old they are.
George Wood
4.5
3.5
Location, belly fat, leg length, face features, neck girth, back droop or lack of in #2.
Kelly Yarnall
8.5
5.5
Buck 1 appears more grey. Heavy. Buck 2 looks more brow and a bit thinner.
Glen Manning
5.5
3.5
balance between front half and back half
Mark Pedo
6.5
4.5
Uneducated guesses.
Billy Cockrell
4.5
3.5
Lots of mass. Not much spread. The second is a good buck, but the body doesn't look mature enough.
Stuart Brittain
6.5
7.5
SWAG
Preston Taft
4.5
3.5
guess
Vito D'Aiuto
6.5
4.5
Because 6.5 + 4.5 = 11
Rob
4.5
3.5
Just a guess!
rog mcgarry
8.5
8.5
just thought there would be a much older deer if not a lot would get it right
Richard Monda
6.5
5.5
Buck 1 is 6.5 based on antler mass and body mass - heavy body Buck 2 is 5.5 mature but not as much body mass as buck 1 but heavy nonetheless- bare
bob banks
4.5
5.5
I've harvested a 21 pt non-typical and it was only 2 1/2 . Non's are a gene thing not by age. #1 However size and mass more indicative to an age based guess. #2
Matt
7.5
5.5
Both fully mature. Buck 1 has telltale signs of age on face. Buck 2 is climbing the hill, but not over it yet - he's in his prime physically.
CJ Allen
6.5
3.5
I counted the growth rings
Robert Riecke
5.5
4.5
The second buck looks younger ,not as bulky or grey nose like buck 1
Chris Cosgrove
4.5
5.5
Mass at base of rack and body size
William langley
4.5
6.5
1st buck had no gray on his head. 2nd buck had gray on his head and pot belly
Ultimate Predator
5.5
3.5
Just because...........
4.5
1.5
No gray on his face
4.5
1.5
No gray on his face
4.5
1.5
No gray on his face
4.5
1.5
No gray on his face
4.5
1.5
No gray on his face
joe blow
7.5
3.5
I have no idea, I'm an idiot
Matt Eyster
3.5
4.5
The bucks faces look young to me.
Matthew Bullington
5.5
3.5
nose, belly
Shaun Foor
3.5
3.5
Just a Hunch
BudE
6.5
5.5
complete guess
Andrew Doyle
5.5
3.5
Just a guess.
Stephen DiMarino
3.5
4.5
I looked at other explanations first and realized that no one really knows with all of the exact opposite estimations. This is just what they look like to me.
jeremy foley
4.5
4.5
both bucks have younger looking faces. kansas is know for growing big bucks at young age
John Ruchar
4.5
6.5
Buck one, blocky body, not much of a paunch. Buck two, heavier body, sagging paunch, roly-poly face.
Jim Bane
5.5
4.5
Buck 1, very heavy haunches, large brisket. Big belly but back still straight. Buck 2 well muscled haunches, good belly, straight back but not a large brisket. 1 or 2 years younger than buck 1.
Warren Lacour
6.5
5.5
just looks of body. neither one looked to old.
Ken Radach
3.5
6.5
Best Guess
James Baughman
4.5
3.5
Being bladed buck #1 he is getting near his peak. Buck #2 is a younger buck definitely between 2 and 3.
rod burch
4.5
3.5
body size
Eric Hasel
4.5
6.5
#1 looks fully mature, but thickness of chest and shape of head make me think no more than 4.5. Knarly rack is deceiving. #2 looks older gaging by chest and shape of head.
jason brown
4.5
3.5
buck one pretty decent bases buck 2 looks younger but im good with 3.5
Dan Wilson
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 looks past prime, more gray around mussel, start of roman nose. Buck 2 Not quite in prime. appears to be approaching it.
John Waight
5.5
3.5
The shoulders, hips and belly on #1 show him to be more mature, Buck #2 shows a flat back and belly with slight development in the shoulders, a couple of years to go on #2 before he is ready
Dave Fabian
4.5
3.5
buck #2 short tine length would say young deer but he has great bases, body and face don't say old deer in decline, buck #1 freak, for that size you'd say very old deer but body and face don't, Kanas!
Kenneth Gunn
5.5
4.5
Judging by the sway in their back and belly and the shortness in their faces.
chris moser
4.5
4.5
Cant go by the racks. Length of nose and shape of body. No real visible gray hair on face. Went with 4.5 but could be 3.5.
Frank Shiflet
3.5
2.5
Nose, hind side, shoulders
John L. Sloan
3.5
3.5
Body conformation and face shape. I seldom more than 5-yrs. off and fully reralize you can't accurately age a buck by looking.
Ron Kaiser
5.5
4.5
The general mass of the number one buck.The number lacks the mass but also browtines but has great height.
Rick Rhodes
3.5
3.5
#1 has great genetics but no slouch in the stomach. #2 size typically shot in Kansas at age around 3.5
David Oiler
5.5
3.5
Buck #1; Gray in face, well developed nose size and forehead, Belly hanging. Buck #2; Face is developed, Nose size and forehead developed, Belly is flat.
james Nick
4.5
3.5
1 looks older than 2
herm canil
3.5
4.5
1 baby face still has time to grow, also figured it was a trick so I guess on the young side + Kansa bucks get big #2 long face, rectangular body, short legs
Roger Turner
5.5
4.5
Buck no 1 Face has appearance of maybe starting to go back down and physical size. Buck no 2 Huge deer with freakish growth, mature head.
Mark Schroeder
7.5
4.5
Belly, neck, nose
jim bruce
5.5
10.5
gut feeling based on looking at many many bucks over the years
Billy Shoemaker
4.5
4.5
Both deer are about 4.5 YO. My reasoning is the shape of the face of the deer, the straight back , and also the flat stomachs. Both deer have a great deal of body mass.
sal DiFranco
5.5
1.5
size of Roman Nose and age of face
Scott Hartley
4.5
3.5
Both mature bucks
John VanLieshout
5.5
3.5
Gray in the face and hanging gut on #1 have have him at an older age. #2 has a darker face and he looks slim in the rear end.
monty lutz
4.5
4.5
Both appear to have entered the mature status I believe both are 4.5 years of age.
Troy Wilmott
6.5
5.5
Deer have different "gates" as they get older my guesses were based on the way they walked in to each stand
Brian Conrad
4.5
4.5
Ranch deer. Well fed with antler growth feed.
Henry Laupan
3.5
3.5
Hard to say but both look strong and healthy , straight backs no pot belly . I would say they are not that old . Could be 4.5 but not 5 or 6 . I'd go with 3.5
Brian Brooks
4.5
4.5
I was looking at the bodies.Nothing to do with the antlers
Randy Neuman
5.5
5.5
Both bucks appear nearly equal in body size and structure.
John Mullen
6.5
4.5
Buck #2 is a mature buck with a big body and the antlers have good mass. Buck #1 is a huge bodied deer with tons of mass and non-typical points.
John Mullen
6.5
4.5
Buck #2 is a mature buck with a big body and the antlers have good mass. Buck #1 is a huge bodied deer with tons of mass and non-typical points.
John Mullen
4.5
6.5
Buck #1 is a mature buck with a big body and the antlers have good mass. Buck #2 is a huge bodied deer with tons of mass and non-typical points.
Gump
5.5
4.5
Buck one. Heavy, grey face, thick in front end, legs appear short., mass on antlers. Older mature deer. Buck two. mature but sleek. Not as heavy, looks prime but nothing that makes him look old.
Michael Haik
5.5
4.5
#1) sagging belly, neck and shoulder are one,roman nose weathered face #2) slight sag to the back, slight protrusion of the belly (sounds like Im describing myself). Still slight taper of body
daniel campbell
3.5
4.5
just a guess
Jim Langner
5.5
3.5
The first buck looked older with a roman nose and the second buck looked younger with a sleek looking body and a normal facial profile.
steven hicks
5.5
4.5
1st buck not seen. Probably means he's been around a while. 2nd buck. Looks mature but body size looks to me like 4.5 Yr old.
terry stuart
4.5
6.5
guess work
Thomas Orsell
5.5
4.5
just a guess
Bob Walblay
5.5
2.5
Choices based upon my hunting experiences. I have killed quite a few nice deer and went with my first impression.
Douglas Margrey
1.5
2.5
Both heads are relatively small both look young
Bill Zerger
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 doesn't display typical slight sway in back at age 5 1/2. Body size small. Buck #2 does display slight sway in back and has large body even though rack is not as impressive as #1.
Cary Hawkins
6.5
5.5
Just guessing really. Both have big bodies and fat faces.
Brian Johnston
6.5
3.5
Just a guess.
Michael Arnette
7.5
4.5
Big bucks
Jury Ryser
5.5
5.5
I know Bowsite lol... ....so enjoy the game guys
Ron Fine
4.5
6.5
Buck #1 looks a not as deep thru the chest. Buck #2 looks to be really deep thru the chest and the rack too me looks to be going down hill.
jack frisina
6.5
9.5
buck #1 has thick heavy neck and full body of older buck but not sag and back issues of really old deer-buck 2 has clean lines and not really full body conformation of mature deer.
Pete Valania
6.5
2.5
Chest, face, shoulders and belly.
Chuck Kemmerer
3.5
5.5
Low belly's +Muscle definition
John Brandon
4.5
8.5
face ears and neck on buck 1 look young face head look old on buck 2 with horns regressing
eddie thibodeaux
7.5
3.5
Buck#1 older body building. Buck#2 has that middle aged look
Barry Hart
7.5
6.5
Rack color and aging on snout.
Ed Huff
6.5
4.5
#1 Has a pot belly , mass , and a well developed shoulder. #2 deep chest but still not sagging belly.
Calvin Fluitt
5.5
5.5
Front becoming larger than rear and large neck.
mike wylie
5.5
3.5
buck 1 didn't have the swayed back or roman nose of an older animal. Buck 2 seemed very thin in both body and antlers for a kansas buck
William King
5.5
3.5
Body size and shape, including the deer's face.
David C Jones
4.5
4.5
Just my guess
Cheri Winter
4.5
3.5
#1 thick neck. Diffinition between brisket and neck. Legs short. Back somewhat straight. #2 neck not as thick. Legs longer.
Jim Sattazahn
4.5
3.5
Buck 1 Nice big chest and brisket I also think bigger shoulders. Buck 2 nice deer good chest not as deep as buck 1 I also think this buck has more of that race horse body look.
Barry Hughes
4.5
3.5
Just a guess
Paul Arthur Fleming
6.5
1.5
Body size and girth. Harvested over 40 deer since 1977. One buck dressed out at 308 lbs in Nov. 2011. Eight point typical.
Brian Miller
5.5
4.5
I am guesstimating the ages by how there body mass looks
Jerry Bubba Brown
4.5
5.5
Belly & face of buck
Robert Jaworski
2.5
5.5
Body size and antler girth
David A Zielke
8.5
4.5
Buck #1 has a sagging belly, loose skin on the neck and just looks old. Buck #2 has a straight belly, but lacks the loose skin on the neck and has a younger looking face.
walt hess
6.5
5.5
buck 1 mass of antlers and body neck and belly ,buck 2 high rack not as heavy but still thick body
jeff jacobs
4.5
3.5
buck #1 slight sway back, heavy front shoulders, pot belly but not to much. buck # 2 straight back and belly but to muscular to be 2.5
Roy BRIDGMON
5.5
3.5
#1 Had more muscle refinement and Body mass. #2 Body mass is lacking and muscle refinement is not their. To young looking in the Face.
Billy Cockrell
4.5
3.5
Lots of mass. Not much spread. The second is a good buck, but the body doesn't look mature enough.
Randy Roark
4.5
3.5
the first buck had a slight sag in the belly and a shorter nose indicating to me that it is the older of the 2 bucks. The other buck had a longer nose and no sag in the belly or back.
Craig George
4.5
4.5
I'm afraid that these are only guesses, as I don't have the rational to explain my answers further.... good luck everyone!
Todd Gronau
3.5
4.5
First buck has very pronounced lines as a younger buck would just had great nutrition as well as genetics. Second deer is a tougher one big square frame definitely a mature buck tough one to tell.
James Cichacki
4.5
7.5
I'm just going off of "look" and "feeling". I would have said the first one was about 5 years old and the second one just 7, but those aren't options.
Barry C. Ott
5.5
1.5
Bases get thicker every year and after 4 1/2 they tend to grow more nontypical racks. Both of these are true for buck 1. The pot belly is another giveaway. Buck 2 has none of these characteristics.
Sarah Trimbath
5.5
3.5
Gut pile instinct!
Brian Linstedt
4.5
3.5
Mass, throat taper to chest.
ERIC
3.5
6.5
smaller frame on #1 blocky head and huge body on 2
JC
4.5
5.5
Massive mature deer with big belly and broad chest and bodies!
william r mossey
5.5
2.5
Just from some that I have taken.
Ed Fassler
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has the sagging back/belly - chest/neck line broadened Buck 2 starting to fill out where the neck meets the chest - straight back and full belly
Chris Hermann
3.5
3.5
Body size and a little bit o' guessin'
Brian L Strutz
5.5
3.5
Buck 1 has thick neck and deep chest and sway belly. real stocky. buck two does not have big belly or sway back like 1 not yet mature
Dennis Kluthe
4.5
3.5
Buck #1 Great Mass, pot belly and slight swayback indicates a deer older than 3.5, but his face looks relatively young. Buck #2 No pot belly, neck transitions smoothly into brisket.
Shawn Latour
8.5
6.5
Guess based on body size, antlers and other features
Robert chambers
3.5
1.5
Just does not look too old
Mark Turbeville
6.5
4.5
Cuz I said so
Nathan Lester
3.5
4.5
Long slender head on 1st buck and blocky features of 2nd buck
Donald Keith ray
5.5
4.5
Antler mass wither thickness nose length muzzle color sway belly
Sean Buckley
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 didn't have an overly full neck for November and he had a tighter looking stomach. Buck #2 had lots of tarsal staining, a thick neck with smooth transition into brisket and a saggier belly.
Dale Beisner
4.5
5.5
Richard Methot
4.5
2.5
Body size shoulders horns length with nose.
John P. Morgan
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 had massive body....a bit saggy...I felt he was pretty old. Buck 2 was still in very fine, slick body....just coming to age.
Ted Beaver
6.5
5.5
fat flopping on brisket
Mike Wilson
5.5
4.5
Overall body size and sag of the belly
Earl Nunemaker
5.5
3.5
Buck#1 very mature, gray face heavy rack Buck#2 not as mature and a little lighter on rack
Ben Corvin
5.5
5.5
Both deer are the same age because of frame and build are both muscularand are in their prime.
Dave Dobronski
7.5
4.5
Body shape, belly sag, and face angles.
Vernon McFadden
4.5
4.5
Both look mature but not over the hill
justin schlotzhauer
6.5
3.5
Because I think so
Ronnie Burrow
2.5
5.5
The first buck wasent muscular or had a sagon belly the signs of a young buck..
Todd Jahn
5.5
5.5
Both deer are the same age.
Joe Blaylock
4.5
1.5
No pot-belly
MAX SWAYZE
3.5
6.5
#1 Kansas deer 3.5 tall and slim #2 big belly old deer
Tom Alford
6.5
4.5
Just my thoughts. Either way buck 1 is a shooter and it doesn't really matter how old he is IMO
Lorrie Thornton
6.5
5.5
Thick necks
Rod Stewardson
5.5
7.5
Buck 2 Big gut no butt. He was likely bigger horned last 2 years.
Richard Reeves
3.5
4.5
wild guess
joe holley
4.5
5.5
body and head size
Charles Langreder
5.5
4.5
Just a good guess.
Danielle Woods
5.5
3.5
Low hanging belly and dark face, slight stoop to back. Mature deer but still sleek body. Could be 4.5 but going lower due to probable rut swell.
Phil Harros
1.5
4.5
seems like a younger animal then the first one
Phil Harros
5.5
1.5
I wanted to go older but no roman nose...decent neck
Randy Verfaillie
1.5
2.5
Great height but relatively short tine length. Slender through the belly. Straight back.
Randy Verfaillie
5.5
1.5
Great mass but not much of a pot belly. Not much gray in the face.
James Beavers
3.5
5.5
Face looks younger on first. Body and face more mature looking for #2
Andrew Elsen
5.5
3.5
#1 View is not that great however - Legs appear short, Fully Muscled, heavily swelled neck, little bit of pot belly #2 Neck meets belly line, legs appear normal
Bill Pfingsten
5.5
3.5
Buck #1 has thick bases and overall maxed out antler growth& sagging belly. Buck #2 is an up & comer with a decent rack. Yet his body is sleek and like a race horse.
Don Hain
4.5
3.5
1.Full body with stomach bulge. Less than full body.
Dennis Jones
4.5
6.5
Buck #1 - Body isn't as big enough to be a 5 year old Buck #2 - Looks like an older deer
Bill G
4.5
6.5
Based on body size only, genetics come mostly into play for the antler sizes which can fool the best of us.
Bryan
3.5
5.5
Both deer where guess on maturity of the body And where and tear
stephen jackowski
7.5
5.5
**
Joe
6.5
3.5
#1 gray face...large rack #2 large body....appears young
Jerry
5.5
6.5
Jus a guess
Michael Ford
3.5
5.5
I have taken lots of bucks over the years and from my experience, based on their body size, the way they carried themselves along with the colors in their faces and ears. This would be my guess
David C Thatcher
5.5
3.5
My opinion.
Tim Rigg
6.5
8.5
Don't know much about aging. Just hunches/guesses...
William Harrison
6.5
4.5
I eliminated ages 1-3.5 based on body proportions. One deer had smooth fur throughout and no ripples. The other had ripples which seem to indicate an older deer plus it's antler mass.
Manuelklimis
6.5
5.5
White face, belly hanging , size of antlers.
Mike Windemuller
4.5
3.5
Neither deer has the sagging belly or loose skin on the brisket. Neck and shoulders are distinctive.
Richard W Spanton Sr.
1.5
2.5
young deer
Lael Hall
3.5
2.5
Snout on #1, body posture on #2
Thomas E. Bryson
6.5
4.5
Just my guess!!
Kelly Charles Marshall
5.5
4.5
1st one is because of his color and the swaying of his back, and the second one is again because of his color and the brightness of his eyes!
Devin twitty
4.5
5.5
Both look close in age their backs don't look sagging, first buck just looks like a well grown buck but the second just looks older to me
Drew Dryden
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 is an old buck you can see it in his face, stomach and how he walks. Buck 2 is 3.5 because you can tell he is still young and has potential but he hasn't put on the mass yet.
neil rapaduski
4.5
3.5
Heavy chest on buck one. Roman nose. Medium body.
Gary Martin
4.5
6.5
Experience
KR
5.5
3.5
Buck number 1 has a more blocky body. He doesn't look like he is getting sway backed but more straight across the belly and back. Buck number 2 still looks like he is slimmer in the belly/hip area.
Alex Tombaugh
7.5
5.5
Buck 1 - sagging back, deep full brisket, grey face Buck 2 - straighter back, blocky, not as grey face
Curtis Clark
3.5
5.5
Picked 3.5 for buck 2because he still looked long in the legs and Picked 5.5 for buck 1 because chest was full, shoulders were rounded, and back seemed to sway
Craig doll
1.5
5.5
Long nose
Mark Teeter
3.5
3.5
I killed a 265 lb (on scales) 168 inch typical giant in Kansas. A biologist with many years experience repeatedly asked me if I had the right jaw bc he could only give it 3.5
Don Johnson
5.5
4.5
1. Mass; "never been seen before"; body size 2. smooth but not aging body; not saggy; no. of points and relative antler development
Ron Rockwell
7.5
3.5
#1 Older bucks seem to grow more NT with age #2 I believe is a younger buck as he has short times even though he has great main beams.
Michael Brookhart
6.5
5.5
Body size of each is within each of the age classifications that I chose. Both had deeper chests and more prominent brisket. The buck, however, had a little bit more of a sagging stomach.
Joe S
3.5
3.5
Both young both with good genes, backs are still level no drop yet same with belly stomach no drop I'd be happy with both on my wall.
James Holland
2.5
4.5
#2 is deep chested and has a longer body than #1.
Jerry wansack
6.5
3.5
Just guessing
Loren P Ameen
5.5
4.5
1) Heavy muscle, big belly. 2)Adult buck, not much belly yet.
Richard Brown
2.5
5.5
buck one large body and neck looks like an older deer buck 2 averge size deer not as beefy and smaller neck
HUNTER MIKULETZKY
6.5
4.5
#1 Extra Junk & Mass #2 Guessed 4.5 but might be 5.5 Body and head size.
Tricia staab
7.5
3.5
Just a guess from my own experiences with whitetail
CLOYDE GREGORY
4.5
4.5
With good water and forage it doesn't take that long for a buck to get to good size.
Isaiah Hunter Wise
5.5
6.5
I'm looking at bucks that are most likely in their prime. They don't have Roman nose yet and are very muscular.
Troy Najarian
6.5
3.5
1. roman nose, shoulders and neck are blended together. loose skin around neck like old cow. 2. long snout but neck still defined, not part of shoulders, deer body is big but not blocky like number 1
Jason hickman
5.5
4.5
Judging from muscle, belly hang and flab what I could see on jaws
vic bergen
3.5
3.5
Kansas..good feed. equal bodies structurally. faces younger than old. body depth says mature but not old.. nothing to brag about on their heads, but past 2 years of growth. go in the middle at 3 1/2
Ben Hallock
5.5
3.5
Just my guess by the size and mass of antlers. Definitely NOT young deer !!
Jim Maloney
4.5
6.5
1.) Roman Nose, nice rack, not like anything I've seen 3 1/2 or younger, but he does not look all that aged. 2.) Same as one but appears to be a bit larger and more weathered. Show me the teeth.
Bruce Schmitt
4.5
3.5
buck one roman nose buck two young with potential flat belly
Brian Ward
6.5
5.5
Both bucks are old. The first buck would need max (more) age go grow the great mass, sticker points. 6.5 and 5.5 years old.
Perry Smith
4.5
3.5
#1 Anywhere but Kansas I would say was older but in Kansas this buck could be 4.5. #2 Just presents himself as a young buck, straight belly neck not going all the way to brisket etc.
ron berry
3.5
5.5
Pure guess
Kevin
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 has Roman nose and sagging belly and wrinkling of the neck. Buck 2 still has posture and slight Roman nose
Matthew Cotoia
4.5
3.5
Buck 1 big body/belly. Buck 2 lean body deer at the point where 1 more year would put him over the top.
joseph yesalonis
4.5
5.5
body coformity on both deer show a mature animal
Joe DeAngelis
6.5
4.5
Mass growth at bases
Mark Wollert
4.5
3.5
Buck #1 has big neck, deep chest and large body. Face is square and block look. Buck #2 This buck is a 3.5. His body is filling out but doesnt have the really deep chest. Flat line through his belly
Neil Hambrick
5.5
4.5
Deer #1 looks thicker to me. I'm just guessing based on I don't get to see deer like this in the wild.
Tim Pravecek
5.5
4.5
Neither has the sagging belly I usually out of 5+ yr olds
JAMES MARTIN
5.5
4.5
I CHECK THE TEETH AFTER I SHOOT THEM TO AGE THEM, BUT THE BRISKET, BELLY, AND BACK ARE ALL GOOD INDICATORS THAT THESE BUCKS ARE MATURE, NOT ENOUGH ISSUES AND COLORING TO BE 6+ YEAR OLDS.
Bill Baughman
3.5
5.5
First buck had a lean body and the second buck had the body and nose shape of a more mature deer.
Brad Lantz
7.5
3.5
Buck 1 - heavy antlers, non-typical, tines short, heavy body, thick neck, roman nose ... all indicative of old buck Buck 2 has a mature body, not "old buck" body, typical frame, thinner beams
Jim Williams
3.5
3.5
Mature bucks both. Pretty straight back (no sway) and no ponch. I hope I got this right!
RICK REID
2.5
2.5
both deer look very young
Ryan Athey
5.5
4.5
Body type is blocky on both bucks
Aaron clark
5.5
3.5
Seen a few old deer before
greg varnado
2.5
4.5
deer #1 is a nice buck for sure but I think he is young because of his over all body size and narrow muzzle and shallow brisket. Deer #2 has a mature body, deeper brisket , and wider muzzle.
Tom Nauman
5.5
3.5
Antler size, body size
Robert Thompson
1.5
3.5
Body and face
Robert Thompson
1.5
5.5
Mass face belly
Bronly Morningstar
3.5
2.5
Educated guesses!
Rod Ward
6.5
2.5
Just guessing looking at body builds and antlers
Dan Donaldson
3.5
5.5
Body confirmation on both bucks were studied before guessing the age
Mark Schroeder
7.5
4.5
Belly, neck and nose
Allen Rebman
4.5
3.5
#1 body shape and size #2 color of muzzle hair and body shape
Tyler Kinley
3.5
5.5
Just a guess
Federico Jasso
4.5
6.5
Back , face and belly but I am not very good at this
Isaac MacLean
7.5
5.5
Buck #1 has a sagging brisket Buck #2 doesn't look as old, but still has some grey around the eyes
Bob Hacker
5.5
5.5
Both look to be in they're prime.
Loren McGarrahan
3.5
2.5
#1 lacks swayed back/pot belly to be any older. #2's sleek body & realatively long legs makes him look young.
Dave Weber
3.5
5.5
Body size.
Todd Gunther
6.5
4.5
Body size / shape
Mike Freeman
4.5
5.5
Body Size/Composition
John Jillson
4.5
7.5
Buck 1 straight belly flat back. #2 dropped belly and swayback.
Andrew H
4.5
3.5
Both are guesses. I've sent samples to deer age numerous times now. If their lab is accurate I am convinced you can't accurately age a deer on the hoof or by the molars in the bottom jaw past 1.5 yrs
Andrew Hooyman
4.5
3.5
Both are guesses. I've sent samples to buck age numerous times now. If their lab is accurate I am convinced you can't accurately age a deer on the hoof or by the molars in the bottom jaw past 1.5 yrs
Harry Lindroth
4.5
4.5
Both have similar body size and mass. Buck #1 in my opinion was a fenced and feed antler growth products buck #2 was more natural feed.
Howard Roe
3.5
4.5
I live in Kansas. They don't get much older than this, anymore!
thomas kelley
5.5
3.5
Antler and body size
BRET SCOTT
5.5
3.5
Pure guess!
Russell Freeman
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 body size, brisket very large. Torn between 6.5-7.5 but chose 6.5 assuming body size may start to decline at 7.5? Buck 2 looks 3.5 walking and in size. Could be 4.5 maybe more but unlikely.
Larry Breece
4.5
5.5
# 1 sway back belly sag, no graying, Roman nose # 2 leaner no sagging but more fit
corey
4.5
2.5
buck one looks like he has a big brisket and low belly. buck 2 looks like he is small in the front
Ray A. Kline
4.5
2.5
Buck 1 has more belly & rounder nose Buck 2 is straighter in the gut looks young
mike walt
6.5
5.5
1. belly, facial,neck....that is a fat deer, nose 2. belly neck, i didn't see as much graying, nose
Andrew klarich
4.5
6.5
Big belly but small head think hes got some years left. 2nd buck looks massive. Body is equal all around. Long snout.
Rob
1.5
6.5
Body structure on both deer, mass / size of head gear.
Matt Vasquez
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 has more pronounced markings showing that it is a more mature deer. Buck 2 has large brisket but still does not have the same kind of markings and along its face and brow.
Dara Bitler
4.5
3.5
My guess is based on body mass, neck thickness, antler mass, muscle tone and stomach sag. Buck 1 looks more mature than buck 2, unless buck 2 is on the down hill slide.
William
2.5
4.5
Skin body and size of the antlers
John Augustine
3.5
5.5
Buck 1 had much more girth near his hind quarter/stomach area. However, sagging in the spine not noticed so maybe in prime. Buck 2 was still lean in the same area.
Kevin Williams
5.5
4.5
Buck#1 having never been seen before makes me think he probably just exploded in horn growth in the last 2 years.
Steve Blackton
4.5
3.5
Face and linear relationship with spine and belly
Steve Blackton
4.5
3.5
Face and linear relationship with spine and belly
MarkJorrey
6.5
4.5
#1 had a full brisket, roman nose and pooched belly #2 Brisket a little leaner, still a pooched belly
Vince Properzi
4.5
4.5
I think they are the same age buck one has better genetics or feed horn growing mineral ?
Stephen McDaniel
6.5
4.5
Body size and shape.
Matthew Smith
4.5
7.5
#1 - mature, but potential to be a megabuck; chest not as big; came to bait, no hesitation, not nervous at all. #2 - huge chest, shorter tines, approached with caution; he is past his prime, but wise.
Jon Turner
4.5
3.5
Best guess.
Stephen Manukas
6.5
4.5
#1 looks older than #2
Brandon Wise
4.5
3.5
Looking for the "old man" signs. Sagging belly, arched back. Short, fat snout.
Matt McMoran
3.5
2.5
Kansas deer, what more can you say... Not quite as old as deer the same size in other parts of the country...
Ryan Bergey
5.5
4.5
Lucky guess!
Josh Ault
7.5
5.5
Buck 1 has big pot belly and looks to have been battle tested. Buck 2 is a big body Kansas deer that shows a large frame but no true potbelly. Also looks younger in face.
Bryan Van Ryn
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 looked heavier in the belly a slight sway to his back and a heavy chest with a lot of heavy bladed antler mass. Buck #2 looked like a heavier body size than a 3-1/2 yrd old.
Jarred Tynes
4.5
6.5
Buck # 1 doesnt have the mass or distended belly of an older deer. Buck # 2 does have the antler mass and body features of an older deer.
DAlton Holder
7.5
3.5
#1 has a gray muzzle and a more mature body. #2 is less mature and doesn't have the body mass and size.
Alexander Krizel
6.5
3.5
Antler thickness at the base. Body mass.
Edward MCBlain
3.5
4.5
A total guess on my part. I don't see any bucks that big in Pennsylvania.
Christopher kmiec
5.5
3.5
#1 LOOKS TO HAVE THE SOLID BODY WITH LOOSE SKIN...#2 STILL LOOKS LIKE A STUD AND ON THE YOUNGER SIDE
Ben McDougal
4.5
6.5
Buck #2 smells a little older than he looks
jim schmitz
6.5
4.5
strickly based on body size of both
rick legris
6.5
2.5
1 old deer sway belly grey muzzle 2 young deer small bases spindley
Michael Stanley
6.5
4.5
Big non-typical appears to be at peak prime but on the downward side, but facial features don't appear to have look of really old deer. Buck 2 appears to be reaching his prime
Paul White
6.5
7.5
Muzzle appearance, facial coloration.
Brandon Deaver
4.5
6.5
Best guess
Mark Wimer
5.5
3.5
Body Mass and girths
Anthony L DaGuanno
3.5
4.5
By the size of their chest and stomach
Alan Greenwaldt
4.5
3.5
Buck#1 based on circumference and mass. Buck #2 based on his frame
Randy Howard
6.5
4.5
Both are mature deer but 1st deer is at his peak.
Bob Crossman
5.5
8.5
Just a guess here but my thoughts: Buck 1 is at his prime, full chest, big ass, long nose. Buck 2 looks past his prime, ass is leaner, long body, antlers look like they are heading down as well.
Matthew Cline
3.5
5.5
Buck one has a small body and long legs. Buck 2 has a thick chest and Roman nose. His brow goes below his eyes. Definitely 5 1/2, could be a little older though.
John Ochs
4.5
3.5
buck 1 has deep chest and a saggy belly buck 2 no deep chest and no saggy belly
Brennan Johnson
5.5
6.5
Buck 1 looks in prime physical shape. Guessing 5 1/2 because of all the extra stuff he has on antlers. Buck 2's antlers look like they are on the downfall. Body doesn't look as old though.
Dutch Deick
4.5
2.5
Using the swag method
tim ross
5.5
4.5
just a guess
Shane Suranski
5.5
4.5
Brisket on deer one. Belly on deer 2
Rich Hollein
7.5
5.5
1 seems to have short legs and a big belly. 2 no waste line but still looks long legged. Less brisket fat than 1. But that could just be due to diet.
Jason Strouse
6.5
4.5
Buck #1 still has a straight back but is starting to get pot bellied. Buck #2 has a straight back and flat belly and the bottom line of his neck continues directly into his chest indicating maturity.
Derrick percival
5.5
2.5
Being that they both are Kansas deer and the food sources are high in proteins, I would think mass is going to start young and growth of racks will be Fat. Buck 1 looks old and buck 2 young.
Scott Lucas
6.5
5.5
Older buck would have flattened antlers. Too old and the antlers would actually begin to weaken and reduce in size.
Jim cooper
2.5
3.5
They look like younger deer body wise and in the face.
Derek Mleynek
5.5
4.5
Buck 1 looks old, but his back still looks pretty straight. He has a lot of sag in his brisket. Buck 2's body is pretty rectangular. His belly isn't really hanging much yet though.
Doug Keefer
5.5
4.5
Without the lower jaw, just a guess.
PatTraynor
5.5
4.5
Size and color
Thomas stein
6.5
5.5
Short bulky head and deep chest on first buck same on second but smaller rack
Brian Heins
6.5
3.5
Buck #1 - Gray hair, antler mass, flabby brisket...he has some years on him but isn't past prime yet. Buck #2 - Youthful look compared to the other buck, less antler mass, healthy and sleek look.
MIKE SAIN
1.5
2.5
1. LOOKS OLD 2. LOOKS YOUNG
RON EWALD
7.5
3.5
SIZE AND COLOR
Mike Wolf
8.5
5.5
Just from experience judging Kansas deer for years
Josh Glazier
6.5
6.5
Buck 1- Antler development shows he is most likely is his prime. His body, brisket and face shoe the the age class very well. Buck 2- His face puts him in an older bracket. He very well may be 7.5yr
Christian coté
7.5
5.5
The site of the body
John
4.5
4.5
I didn't really look at the size of the antlers of either buck that much but instead the size of both bucks themselves.
Larry A. Rollins
6.5
5.5
Just a guess!
Larry Ellis
4.5
6.5
Buck one is just entering his prime and Buck to is a pig that is at the height of his prime from what I can tell.
steve pignataro
3.5
3.5
no big gut
Tom Hagerman
5.5
5.5
They both look older to me, but I am no expert by any means.
Mike Rice
4.5
3.5
No ratinal. Wild guess.
Bruce Andersen
4.5
5.5
length of face, body shape
Steve Maxfield
4.5
3.5
Buck #1 has diminished definition between neck on front quarter with a slightly pouched belly. Buck #2 has clear definition between neck and front quarter, straight back and no belly.
alex czajka
4.5
2.5
#1 saggy belly and roman nose #2 full body not saggy
Steve Alfano
6.5
2.5
Buck 1 seems to be in his prime years or so. Full body, block head, gorgeous nontypical rack. Buck 2...seems thinner, longer body, still room to grow if let walk by Kansas standards.
Nate Brooks
6.5
3.5
Deer 1, heavy in the brisket area with additional aging in the face. Deer 2, no mass in the chest or neck area
Mike Leonard
5.5
3.5
Buck one genetically has excellent mass and character, he also possesses heavier neck and shoulder mass. Better a year older. Buck 2 a real nice typical youngster.
Jordan Humphreys
5.5
2.5
Just a guess.
Reggie White
5.5
3.5
Physical characteristics
Mike Henrich
5.5
4.5
Mass, no sway back and young looking face
Wade Johnson
4.5
3.5
Body and neck sizes. Nose length. Antler mass.
Dave Toms
4.5
3.5
the deeper chest on Buck 1 leads me to believe he is older and I would put him at 4 1/2 - 5 1/2 - I am going to go with the lower guess
Kraig Townsend
7.5
4.5
Mass on #1 takes several years to develop. #2 is a nice deer, but younger.
Mike Sample
6.5
3.5
Buck 1 b/c of his size, neck and brisket flab. Buck 2 looks mature but younger than buck 1 by a few years.
Greg Kush
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 has a blockier look to me and an older looking head.
planebow
5.5
3.5
The second buck has a younger body then the first with a straight back. The first buck does not have a swayed back as much as a 7.5 or 8.5 buck
Randy Hoffman
6.5
4.5
Brisket and back along with mass
Mark Green
8.5
4.5
buck 1 looks like he is just past his prime great but going the other way,number 2 looking like he is just coming into his prime
thomas l harvey
5.5
2.5
Body characteristics and rack size as well as geographical location
Kyle Cooney
9.5
6.5
Everybody always guesses deer based on antler size. I went older based on previous tests and body characteristics.
Micchael Gargiulo
6.5
5.5
Buck 1 seems to have more grey hair on his snout.
Dale Lhotka
7.5
4.5
Buck 1 body appears old and blocky whereas buck 2 seems like a younger deer and very athletic looking.
Jason Gregg
4.5
3.5
#1 eats the corn in long slow nibbles, like an older deer.
Doug Gray
4.5
6.5
Their bodies tell the tale...
Michael Cortez
5.5
4.5
Buck one doesn't yet have a sunken stomach. But has roman nose. Buck 2 had a younger sleeker body still.
Mark Rogers
6.5
4.5
the mass and stickers lead me to think #1 is older than average. #2 is well on his way, but thinking body characteristics of younger mature buck.
Matt Matcjett
6.5
3.5
Deer #1 Mass, Belly line . Deer #2 still lean through beklly and hips
John Balkurna
3.5
1.5
#1 Buck is heaver #2 Buck is thiner
Nicholas Martin
6.5
7.5
The second buck has much more inside antler spread as well as less points compared to the first buck.
Tom Stevenson
7.5
4.5
Body size and shape
Tory Haggith
6.5
4.5
I think buck#1 is 6.5 years old because its brisket is really sagging and stomach too.
gary teague
6.5
4.5
Buck one looks more of a sway back and he has more fat hanging down on his neck 2 just looks a few yrs younger
Walter E Camp III
5.5
3.5
Best guess
Ray Prillaman
6.5
3.5
Full heavy body. Mass.
Jack Caseman
5.5
4.5
#1 has bigger body, loose hanging skin and fairly gray muzzle. #2 has a large body, even though gut is not sagging, he still looks mature.
Jacob Nisley
4.5
4.5
They both look like mature deer but I'm not sure they have the massive body to be older.
Al Jamieson
5.5
3.5
I might be right?
Nate Phelps
3.5
4.5
Young faces
Ed Sample
4.5
3.5
No rationale other than they it seems like they must be that old to grow those antlers.
James Maples
7.5
3.5
Buck 1 has grey on it's face so over 6. Buck 2 just looks young.
Josh DeBolt
6.5
4.5
Shot in the dark, kind of...Buck 1 just looks ancient...that chest wattle and rounded lines all through the body, plus a lot of grey throughout. Buck 2 looks mature, but still squared off in the body
Tom Metzler
5.5
8.5
it's just a guess
Chuck Baughn
6.5
5.5
buck 1: Blocky head, sagging brisket and belly, body mass, extreme mass in antlers Buck 2. big head, sagging brisket, but not to the point of buck 1. Not as lean as a 4.5 year old would look
Douglas Harr
5.5
3.5
First one has big gut and sway back but doesn't look older. Second has slim waist and straight back.
Roger Ternyak
7.5
6.5
Head/antler features.
ronald murphy
6.5
5.5
Not a full swayback, but efar along with belly bul
ronald murphy
6.5
5.5
Not a full swayback, but efar along with belly bul
maurice zeinstra
5.5
6.5
Just going by the base of the antlers and facial look.
justin kamps
5.5
7.5
Buck 1 look mature but not real old Buck 2 has that huge chest cavity and gray on his face
Andre B
7.5
4.5
Because Frank said so
Mitch
5.5
6.5
They are both mature bucks. I think buck 2 looks older, but it's just a guess.
Mike OBryan
6.5
4.5
Buck 1 looks old and tired in the race. That much mass on the antlers takes years to develop. Buck 2 has a straight back and straight belly. No sag. the nose is long and the buck looks more youthful
Matt Finney
6.5
4.5
Just a guess. Obviously we can rule out 1.5 and 2..5, and I would be extremely surprised to find out that one of the them is 3.5. Beyond that, it's purely a guess for myself.
Matt Dowse
6.5
4.5
WAG based on experience.
Joe McIntosh
6.5
5.5
Buck 2 looks younger than buck 1 to me, and guessing both are at least 4.5 minimum, so my best guess
Chris Bullington
6.5
4.5
Heavy palmation of the first buck. Dominate behavior. Block body. 2nd buck was between 3.5 and 4.5 for me. Guess because Pat shot it
Brian Wilson
5.5
3.5
Overall appearance.
sean witthar
3.5
5.5
just a WAG
Rob brenes
8.5
4.5
Pure guess
Bill Jones
5.5
7.5
Both are mature deer ,just a guess .
kevin cormack
3.5
8.5
#1 very healthy, just looks young. #2 looks relatively healthy, but kind of arthritic or maybe just some feed corn that didn't agree with him. Lookin' kinda old.
George Schwarzer
4.5
3.5
Based on Body configuration.
Kelly Harris
5.5
3.5
Both racks look to score 114
Joe Simpson
6.5
4.5
Many years of aging
Gary Gapp
8.5
4.5
So I guessed!
chris schelkopf
6.5
5.5
It's hard not to look at the antlers of deer #1 but with that mass and amount of stickers, i have to guess him to be 5.5 or older. Buck #2 has a decent belly to him along with a short nose.
Mike Gargiulo
6.5
3.5
guesses
John Bova
4.5
5.5
32 years of hunting
Houston Parker
3.5
6.5
Just years of looking at a deer.
quinn@work
5.5
5.5
They are KS corn fed deer. Body size and facial hair gave me my clues.
Jeremy Batey
8.5
5.5
Rationale on Buck 1: Mass, Trash, and a Huge Ass = Old Rationale on Buck 2: Poor score but tall beams. Stout shoulders but streamlined body. Mature but not old.
Kenneth Corrigan
7.5
5.5
Just a guess.
Brett
6.5
5.5
Face characteristics, body shape/size
Trax
3.5
4.5
Neither buck had that drooped big belly older bucks seem to get, both had sizeable necks but the rut had to do with that. Mature enough deer, they do not appear to be older though...
kent Goodridge
4.5
5.5
Facial features
Colin Pratt
4.5
6.5
just my guess
Jason A
5.5
7.5
Just to be different.
Michael Mays Sr
5.5
3.5
Just my best guess from visual inspection
Greg Frederick
4.5
4.5
Guessing Pat is trying to trick us with bucks of the same age so I just chose a middle of the road age although my gut says 5.5 on one of them.
John Helgestad
7.5
4.5
Buck #1 looks past his prime. Grayer face & slight dip behind the shoulder blades. Buck #2 hind quarters looked much narrower than the front quarters. I don't think he is fully mature yet.
Paul Natoli
6.5
5.5
Guess
Andy Cobb
4.5
3.5
Gut feel.
Shawn Leonard
5.5
4.5
The first buck I really don't think his body says 5.5 but the non typical rack kind of gets me. I wanted to say 3.5 for him. The second buck look like he should for a 4.5 year old. Tough going by pic
Robert Barrett
4.5
2.5
Buck one has a thicker neck/chest.
Mark Beck
5.5
2.5
Buck #1 has a fairly stocky build whereas Buck #2 has a tight flat belly and thinner face.
Nate
5.5
3.5
guess
Ken Kluza
5.5
2.5
Body composition.
Steve Hetrick
5.5
4.5
Buck #1 appears to a more mature deer with saggy belly and more blocky appearance. Buck #2 not so much - more straight/sleek lines yet heavy shoulders.
Brett Southall
4.5
6.5
Buck 1 - nice rack, body not as filled out as buck #2. Buck 2 - blocky body.
Chris Dickens
6.5
3.5
First buck body mass and structure seem to show he is older and the second buck doesn't seem to be as filled out as much.
randy nawrocki
4.5
4.5
reality
Rob Lane
7.5
5.5
Deer one looks like a tank, big belly, heavy briskey, loose skin around face. Deer 2 also looks like a mature deer but not as old as deer 1. Was torn between 4.5 or 5.5 and went with 5.5.
Harry Marks
5.5
4.5
Just a guess..
CJ Garrett
7.5
4.5
Buck one has all the signs of an older deer. Big belly, sway back and block head. Buck 2 is mature but appears to be a couple years younger. Not as "beefy" and seems to be more athletic.
Ryan Duininck
5.5
4.5
WAG... Judging from body alone, both being Kansas deer... Deer one looks a little thicker, more brisket, etc.
Jack Harris
5.5
3.5
gut instinct - there really is no accurate way to judge by pictures and videos.
Greg Simon
6.5
4.5
Buck 1- Sagging belly and thick brisket. Very large massive antlers. Buck 2- Solid mature body but not any signs of sagging belly or brisket.
Reid Hash
5.5
5.5
Both Mature and once around 5.5 no one knows for sure. That's why people say he is 5.5 or older.
Randy E Doyle
5.5
3.5
I just look at the antler bases
David Anderson
5.5
4.5
overall body size and back sway. Facial dimensions and coloring
Adam Pauls
6.5
3.5
Looked mainly at body shape, more belly being older buck, and the first being a non-typical generally older bucks get non-typical points. I could be way off. A little greying on the muzzle on that one
Ricky Beverly
4.5
6.5
Just a guess...
Ricky Beverly
4.5
6.5
Just a guess...
Gary Ostoyic
5.5
4.5
palmation plus body shape on chest and belly on buck 1 and mass and sleeker look on buck 2.
Will K
5.5
4.5
I based my guesses on deer I've seen in my native Mass. In KS, those could be 2.5 Year Olds ;) ha! It was the heaviness of the body's that lead me to go with my guesses...
Dave Gilbert
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 is certainly a mature deer, didn't get a good look at his chest and is yet to have the classic roman nose. Buck #2 has a deep chest but still lacks the roman nose..neither deer are very gray
Chase Boggs
6.5
3.5
Buck one look "fuller" while buck two still had a young look to him, no sway back or potbelly
Blane Baker
5.5
7.5
They're both mature. Buck #2 is older than buck #1. One guess is as good as the next
Curt Dahlstrom
4.5
5.5
Buck #1 4.5. Body condition, no real graying in the face Buck#2 5.5 Body showing a little more sag, wear and tear.
Cory McAtee
5.5
6.5
Buck 2's body appeared to be bigger and deaper.
David Dyer
4.5
6.5
just guessing based on white beard. I can see how a kit would help
David Dyer
4.5
6.5
just guessing based on white beard. I can see how a kit would help
Phill
7.5
5.5
Looks
bryan dohn
4.5
7.5
first buck does not look old body size is not that big. second buck has huge body size and looks older.. Could be genetics but it takes awhile to fill out like that..
Rick Boykin
5.5
4.5
Just my horrible intuition.
Scott Bostian
4.5
5.5
Buck 1 looks a little small in the neck chest junction. Buck 2 has no shoulder to neck junction
Warren Nunnelley
6.5
4.5
Buck #1's body screams 7.5 years old to me but I see 5.5 in his face, so I split the difference Buck #2 seems to be 4.5. Belly and back level like a race horse. Still a touch of youth in his face
Jaco Grimsrud
7.5
4.5
I basically looked at the size of the base of the antlers and the body shape. The first buck I would say is definitely over 6.5 but it's really hard to tell the difference between 6.5 and 8.5.
Jim Seftly
6.5
3.5
Number one is a Hog!!!!! The other buck is young.
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