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By:
Osceola
Date:09-Aug-17
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I have heard several times on this site that a "firm seed bed" will help the seeds you plant germinate quickly and out compete the weeds.
What exactly does "firm" seed bed mean? I usually double disk my fall plot, then use a spring tooth harrow to smooth out the soil. When I am done with that procedure, I would not consider my soil "firm," but rather somewhat "loose." I usually drill into the soil after that procedure, but have tried roller packing too. I have lighter sandy loam soils. Even when I run a packer over the soil, I would not consider it "firm." I consider the soil "firm" after a solid 1" rain.
I might be over thinking this. Is there a simple test like "firm" for example: you can't push your pointer finger straight down into the ground more than a 1/2 inch or something simple explanation like that?
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Date:09-Aug-17
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What Pat said. I always use a cultipacker last, an 8' Kasco brand. With nature's timely help I almost always get decent results.
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By:
drycreek
Date:09-Aug-17
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I'm about to join the cultipacker crowd guys ! I looked high and low for a close one, but this is mostly cattle country, not farm country. I finally decided to buy a new one, and it's on the truck headed my way. I bought one with a three point hitch, so I can load it on the front of my trailer in case I need to haul my disc also. I've had a nice shop made roller for awhile, but it's hard to get a food plot slick enough to roll. I've been using a tire drag for years and it does well after discing, but I'm about to get into some throw and mow and I think the cultipacker will come in handy for that.
I read once that a firm seedbed was one that when you walk across it, you only sink about a half inch or so. I would consider that firm, that's generally what my drag leaves me after draghing twice.
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By:
t-roy
Date:09-Aug-17
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After I work my ground up, I will go over it once with my cultimulcher. It's kind of a combination cultipacker and springtooth. I can set the springtooth depth anywhere from 0" to 6"-8" deep. It does an awesome job of leveling and firming the seedbed. On corn/beans, I just plant into the prepped soil. On clover/brassicas, after seeding, I'll go over it again with just the packer wheels. It's by far, my favorite food plot implement.
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By:
KsRancher
Date:09-Aug-17
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I dont think there is a way to gauge it, other than just experience. You just want it firm enough that when you drill you get an even depth with your drill. Dont want to be drilling and part of it at 1 inch deep and part at 3 inches. the more firm the soil, the more even of a seed depth you can get. but the main thing is have it firm enough to get good soil to seed contact. and i mean soil in contact with entire seed. seed sitting in air space under ground isnt good for germination
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By:
Osceola
Date:10-Aug-17
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I appreciate the input.
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By:
Cheesehead Mike
Date:10-Aug-17
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I know this is about as redneck as you can get but I used this for several years to attain a firm seed bed after disking and leveling with a harrow and it worked really well. I have since upgraded to an old truck hood weighted with concrete blocks but I don't have any photos...
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By:
Cheesehead Mike
Date:10-Aug-17
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I'm not quite as refined or large scale as some of you guys Pat ;^)
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By:
drycreek
Date:10-Aug-17
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Mike, is that a Ford or a Chevy door ? Can't be a Dodge, or it would have worn through by now. Does it have to be red, or will any color be ok ? :-)
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By:
Cheesehead Mike
Date:11-Aug-17
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It's a Chevy but a Ford would probably work too. I agree that it's best to avoid Dodge.
In my experience, red is best because you can find it when you go looking for it in the weeds ... ;^)
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By:
Mad Trapper
Date:11-Aug-17
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I like it!
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By:
Grubby
Date:11-Aug-17
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The red paint is a good idea, I recently lost a harrow section, I'm hoping to find it in the spring and not with the mower.
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By:
jdrdeerslayer
Date:11-Aug-17
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Thats funny.....i used to uae a hood(i think it was a hyundai). Now i just drive over it with the tractor which works very well just takes time. Id like a cultipacker but they are expensive to only use 1-2 times a year
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By:
MK111
Date:16-Aug-17
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I joined the cultipacker group last year. Used it today plant radish-turnip mix. Ran the cultipacker before and after planting. This was on tilled soil.
