White Oaks
Habitat Improvement
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Tater John 06-Jul-12
turkulese 06-Jul-12
Tater John 07-Jul-12
cthunt 07-Jul-12
BobcatJerry 08-Jul-12
Tater John 08-Jul-12
kyrob 08-Jul-12
BobcatJerry 12-Jul-12
shortstop 12-Jul-12
jostov7 12-Jul-12
Tater John 12-Jul-12


Date:06-Jul-12

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Nothing else is growing around here so I'm going to post some green...

I started White Oak seeds 4 yrs. ago in pots then transplanted in the field at second year protecting them with plantra grow tubes. 15 whites oaks, 10 persimmons also from seed. Hopefully my pic isn't to large. Four foot tubes.

Rusty

Date:06-Jul-12

Good job Tater!

I've planted a few true white oaks over the years as well. They are still not producing, but I am looking forward to the day they do! I'm going to broadcast that seed like crazy.

Date:07-Jul-12

At the rate of growth I'm seeing I'm hopeful I can graft a few of them in 3-4 yrs and see production within 10 yrs from starting. I've had excellent grafting results on fruit trees and want to see what I can accomplish with nut trees.

Rusty

By: cthunt
Date:07-Jul-12

Looks good Tater they should have nuts in a few years i never tried to do oak tree,skeep us posted on how they do.

Date:08-Jul-12

Tater,You might have problems grafting an Oak. I'm in the tree business and very few are able to be grafted. Mainly English oaks can be grafted, they won't top graft like apples. All the same they will make acorns in the end. Looks like you did a nice job with these and doing everything right. The English oak hybrids bare heavy at a young age, not sure how they would do in Oklahoma. I checked a nursery I do business with in Park Hill Ok. and they grow them, so they should do OK. In Ohio the deer find them wherever I plant them in the nursery. Usually a 7 year old trees will have a lot of acorns. I plan on planting the edges of my pasture with them. Good luck. PM me if you would like any info.

Date:08-Jul-12

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A neighbor has an orchard of pecans and grafts any volunteer trees which he plans to keep and typically has nuts within 7-8 yrs. With the number of oaks I've planted I'll sacrifice a few and experiment. Pecans being hardwoods I hoped grafting would be similar among the hardwoods but some research I've done specific to white oaks that appears not to be the case. Last fall a walnut I dug out of a wood lot produced three nuts after 5 yrs of growth. I have access to my trees on a daily bases and that is a huge advantage in itself.

By: kyrob
Date:08-Jul-12

The white oaks I know of won't produce acorns til 20 years or more on average. The sawtooth is in the white oak family and will produce in 6 to 7 years and usually produce a lot of acorns. They are supposed to bear every year whereas a white or red will often skip a year. That's how they do around here anyway. I will say that I know zero about grafting. If that would help white oaks produce early, that would be a great thing. Good luck with it and post pics if it works out.

Date:12-Jul-12

There is an Saw tooth Oak that a nursery in Missouri sells called "Gobbler" Quercus accutissma "Gobbler" It is from a selected seed source and reported to bare small acorns heavily and at a young age. Selected for wildlife. I have them, but I don't get a lot of acorns, but I am in a colder area where Sawtooth's are more of a southern Oak. The Nursery's name is Forest Keeling. I think they sell to anybody not just to the trade. They have selected strains of paw paws, persimmons, and pecans. They are smaller plants. They have a website and have some interesting native plants and Oaks.

Date:12-Jul-12

I thought white oak family had rounded tips and the red oaks had pointed. That second pic looks like a red or pin oak. Just wanting to clarify to see if I have it right.

Date:12-Jul-12

Red oaks have pointed lobes and white oaks have rounded lobes. White oaks will produce acorns every year under normal conditions, while red oaks will only produce every two years. That being said, white oaks are more susceptible to suffer from a single drought year, whereas the red oak can suffer a drought year and still go on to produce acorns the following year.

Date:12-Jul-12

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You thought right shortstop I didn't mean to post that particular photo, but this one

Rusty


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