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How rare are droptines? Survet/stories
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bumpinblaze4x4 19-Sep-10
CPAhunter 19-Sep-10
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Date:19-Sep-10

Im curious as to how rare droptine whitetails (or muleys) are. I'd love to hear how long you've hunted (gun or bow) and how many you've seen or even if you've had the luck to harvest one. Post your success pics, trail cam pics, stories, etc.

Date:19-Sep-10
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Drop tine and extra main beam on '09 archery mulie.

I've seen one rifle kill at my camp in NE MN about 20 years ago that had a dropper.

Date:19-Sep-10

Depends largely on the area and genetics. My hunting buddy has been at this game for over 25 years and just shot his first drop tine a few years ago followed up by a second one the next. That's after probably close to 50 or more Pope and Young bucks. So they are quite rare out here.

Date:19-Sep-10

Interesting. I was watching "real hunting adventures" this am by bass pro/redhead ( i believe thats the name of the show). Bob folkrod was bow hunting a drop tine deer for the season and then finally shot the buck in december but it had broken off both drops; i couldn't belive he still shot the buck rahter than passing for another year; it was a basic 130-140 main frame 8 without the drops.

I was fortunate to take a 130 main frame 8pt as my first deer at age 15 (shotgun) and he had perfectly symmetrical 5in drop tines (basically a 130 inch main frame 8 plus a 5in drop on each side). Im blessed to have such luck but i have never seen another drop tine in the area or at all since then and its been 13 years. Always curious to know everyone elses experiences. I'll have to try and scan a picture to put up.

Date:19-Sep-10

Drop tines are not always a genetic thing so waiting till next year does not mean he will have them again. They can be formed by a scrape on the velvet while the deer is growing antlers. Often double drops can be formed by a buck going under a fence and scraping the bottom of his horns on the ground. Thats what i have always heard at least.

Date:19-Sep-10

I understand that logic but alot of it has to do with genetics. This buck on the show had been hunted for 3 years and they had pics with the double drops as well so i would highly doubt they would not be back the next year.

Antler damage can lead to abnormal growth but antler growth/development is largely based on genetics and animal health.

Date:19-Sep-10

Buckstopper's embedded Photo

I have pictures of a B&C buck with a droptine in 2008. In 2009 it was an erection (can I say that here?).

I have shot droptine bucks in three provinces. New Brunswick, Ontario and Manitoba.

The picture here is the 08 shot.

Date:19-Sep-10

Buckstopper's embedded Photo

Here is the 09 picture. Notice the extra tine between the G3 and G4 tines on his right side.

Same field both years.

I never saw him in hard antler. He became a ghost.

Date:19-Sep-10

1/1000 in my opinion

Date:19-Sep-10

bird dog's embedded Photo

i have seen 2 in my 13 years of hunting and was lucky enough to harvest one and i let the othe one walk because he was just a 2 1/2 year old

Date:19-Sep-10

bird dog's embedded Photo

here he is a year earlier

Date:19-Sep-10

Forgot the "stories" part....I have had property owners tell me several times that they have seen a droptine buck lurking around but I have never seen one. Like I said...1/1000....maybe more.

Date:19-Sep-10

Nice buck Birddog. Where's the story to go with it?

Date:19-Sep-10

Rob in VT's embedded Photo

Here is a mulie from southern Colorado. Not sure if this is considered a drop, or a messed up brow?

Date:19-Sep-10

I've been bowhunting for 22 years and have only seen one.

Date:19-Sep-10

Deerman1's embedded Photo

I've seen 2.Killed one of them in 08

Date:20-Sep-10

After seriously deer hunting for 28 yeras or so, I have never even seen 1 while hunting.

Date:20-Sep-10

To my thinking, true drop tines project straight down off the bottom of the main beam, usually at about halfway along the length of the beam. Like the one in buckstopper's pic. The buck shown in bird dog's pic, I would call that a flyer point.

I've seen two on the farm I hunt over the years. Both bucks lived on for a couple years afterward, and never grew a drop tine again.

Here's one from 2007, that year he had no drop.

In 2008 he grew a large drop tine.

Later that season he broke off most of the right main beam. I found the broken antler while shed hunting the next spring.

Next year in 2009 he grew no trace of a drop tine. His body that year was enormous though. Notice how his right G2 was short on all the racks he grew.

By: SJJ
Date:20-Sep-10

SJJ's embedded Photo

only one I've seen. killed him off the ground at about 15 feet. He had a significant defect in his back which was all scared in. Based on the wound and info from other hunters near me I believe he was shot with a slug just above the spine the previous season and the drop tine is a result of that injury

Date:20-Sep-10

I would call Birddogs a flyer point.I have one buck with 2 drops and one buck with a single drop.

Date:20-Sep-10

bumpinblaze4x4's embedded Photo

Yea to me a drop tine comes off the main beam and if it comes off of a tine then to me its more of a kicker. Heres my first deer ever; as promised.

Date:20-Sep-10

In 13 years i never noticed how droopy his ears are!

Date:20-Sep-10

20 years living and hunting Iowa and have never seen one while bow or bird hunting. No close friends have scored either.

Date:20-Sep-10

I saw a city buck in my driveway. It had so many non-typical points I couldn't count. 30+ The drop wrapped around under the jaw 12 inches or so. I admit I chased it around the neighborhood a little. It was 1 am. Never found sheds either.

Date:20-Sep-10

HuntinHabit's embedded Photo

Besides this one that I took in 2008, I have only seen two other drop tine bucks in 28 years. I wouldn't call them rare, but certainly low percentage.

Date:21-Sep-10

well in 40 years of bowhunting illinois I have seen 2 or 3 droptine bucks alive in the wild . None were on property that I was actually hunting .

But the TV deer heros all kill em so I guess they have some secret that the rest of us dont know about .

Hmmmm ..........

Date:21-Sep-10

alleghenycollege2009's embedded Photo

I've seen 2 droptine bucks (totaling 3 drop tines) in the last 11 years that I've been hunting . . . was lucky to get this one

Date:21-Sep-10

I have been deer hunting 55 years and have killed close to 400 deer. I have never killed a drop tine and have only seen 3-4.

Much of it has to do with genetics and in my opinion, geographic area.

Date:21-Sep-10

In my 16 years hunting I have seen 1 droptine, just my .02

Date:21-Sep-10

Buckstopper's embedded Photo

Another one that only had the drop tine one year.

Date:21-Sep-10

Add me in the camp with "theiceman" and "Hawkeye". 40 years and have never seen one. A friend has a double drop. 8pt. frame with two matching 10" drops. It is a pretty impressive buck for Kansas.

Date:21-Sep-10

doubledrop's embedded Photo

First drop-tined buck I had seen I harvested in '03.

Date:21-Sep-10

doubledrop's embedded Photo

Second one I shot under at 20 yards last year(#1 on hit list this year).

By: Shiras
Date:21-Sep-10

I have been hunting deer for 24 years (seriously bow hunting for 10) and have seen one on trail cam and one alive.

This year I have one I am hunting with a third main beam. To me that is more rare than a drop tine.

Date:21-Sep-10

doubledrop's embedded Photo

Just got pics of this new drop-tined buck that looks super young and I am calling a future booner. He's already got split 2's and split brows to go with it and I'm pretty sure he is just 2 1/2.

Date:21-Sep-10

Have yet to see one in 24 years here in GA.

Date:21-Sep-10

well now fellas this thread is really interesting . There are folks posting here from a wide range of geographic locations saying that droptines are nearly non existant in their area ............. BUT .......... watch the deer porn channel and it seems that every other "monster buck " killed on film is a drop tine ............ hmmmm ......... kinda makes ya wonder ........... could it be ....... these arent really wild deer being "harvested " on film for the express purpose of selling the salivating hoards of loyal fans the latest gizmo that practically guarantees a big buck ?????

oh Nooooooo !!!!!!! .......... say it aint so !!!!!!

LOL

Date:21-Sep-10

I have lived where i hunt in CO all 23 years of my life. This is the first year I have seen a mulie with a drop time. Hopefully I soon have pics to share

Date:21-Sep-10

W8N4RUT's embedded Photo

Taken in 2004

By: Tombow
Date:22-Sep-10

We usually get a few around here in New Brunswick, my brother shot one 2 years ago off our farm, My buddy shot another the same year. The only chance I had was a number of years ago on a 180 class with double drops but I wasn't sure of the shot and didn't shoot :( Never did get another chance.

Date:22-Sep-10

I took a buck in Central TX with double droptines. He is beautiful. That is the only droptine buck I have seen in the wild. They seem to be more common in South TX. I have never seen one taken or even on a trail cam photo where I live and hunt in East TX.

Date:22-Sep-10

BGHUNTER00's embedded Photo

I hunt in IN and I seem to see one about every other year. Rarely a year goes by that someone I know doesn't kill or see one. This is the 2nd one I've killed in the past 5 years.

Date:22-Sep-10

BGHUNTER00's embedded Photo

Here is the first one....(sorry bout the smokepole!)After reading the above posts I guess mine are not what most would consider a true drop tine.

Date:22-Sep-10
Buckiller's Supporting Link

Date:22-Sep-10

I'm not sure how many bucks I've shot in my life, but only one of them had a drop tine.

Date:22-Sep-10

OFFHNTN's embedded Photo

I've only seen one, so I shot him in Colorado. Would've been a real monster in another couple years as he was a young deer, but it was a tough hunt up till that point. :)

OFFHNTN

Date:22-Sep-10

Buckiller,that is one AWESOME deer.

By: Lee
Date:22-Sep-10

Been hunting 25 years or so and have seen one - a yearling 9 pt. that I did not shoot. I spend a lot of time in the woods each fall and would consider them very rare.

Lee

Date:22-Sep-10

Buckstopper's embedded Photo

My 2002 bow kill. We hunted this deer for 5 seasons and he only had the drop the last two.

Date:22-Sep-10

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo

Here is a buck I killed in 2006. With Double Drop tines. Unbelievably, I have seen 2 bucks with double droptines.

Here is the Story:

A buck called Catfish Hunter. The biggest buck I have ever taken, and one that I will never top in my life. First saw him in July after coming back from Africa. My girlfriend named him Catfish Hunter after the big fish in the movie "grumpy old men" The big one nobody could catch. I pretty much obsessed over this deer, knowing it was the biggest whitetail I have ever seen in the wild, in 15 years of hard bowhunting. Based on extensive scouting, I hung some stands in the what I figured were the best places. I even enlisted Don Higgins, a frieind of mine who writes for North American Whitetail Magazine. After spending days pouring over arial photos, we both agreed on the most likely stand locations, while both of us realizing it would be unlikely that I would ever see the buck again. Obviously, bucks like this almost never move during daylight, during deer season except a little when the rut starts in November. Because this buck was using a tiny patch of cover surrounded by standing corn, we knew that the corn would be out before the rut started, and Catfish Hunter would relocate to bigger cover that I cannot hunt. Happens every year. Bow season opened on October 1st. I figured my chances of even seeing this buck outside of the November rut were pretty much none, but had to try anyway. I hunted hard the first four days of the season, without seeing any deer. On October 5th I hung a new stand based on changing wind directions as well as a hunch. I hunted the stand that same evening and did not see any deer. The next day, I was right back in the same tree, since my entrance and exit route was relatively unobtrusive, and I figured I did not disturb the area too much. Right before Dark, I heard a deer making it's way too me through the standing corn field. When he stepped out, I recognized him as a 4x4 that I had been previously hanging out with Catfish hunter. I could hear another deer behind him, and I knew it was going to be him. My heart started pounding so hard, I thought it would come out of my chest. Still, I became worried because the 4x4 was about to get downwind of me, and would surely smell me, alerting the big one that I was there. It was pretty much a miracle, that the 4x4 passed downwind of me without smelling me. Catfish Hunter got to the last row of corn, and stood there for a good 10 minutes testing the wind before commiting to stepping out in the open. The way he was standing made me think, that even if he did come out before light, he would pass by without offering an ethical shot. He finally came out and offered me a close quartering away shot. I took it, and hell broke loose. Catfish Hunter took off like a bat out of hell. It happend so fast, I could not be sure of exact shot placement, but thought I had heard a loud crack, and worried I hit him in the shoulder. Knowing, I had just shot the biggest whitetail I will ever take in my life, I started to shake uncontrollably. I wanted to climb out of the tree, but I was shaking so bad, my legs would not work. It took over an hour before, I was calmed down enough to climb down. By this time it was dark, so I went to my truck to get a flashlight to look for blood and assess the situation. When I came back, I could not find any blood, nor could I find my arrow. I decided to back off and take up the trail in the morning. My best friend Alan Harwood started to worry about me because he knew I had been out hunting and had not come home yet. He figured I had fallen out of my treestand and hurt myself, and was just getting ready to come and search for me when I pulled into the driveway. I was pretty much a mess, by the time I reached him. I could not talk correctly, and Alan was telling me to calm down. I had a few drinks to calm my nerves. I told him what happend, and immediately called off of work since I new I needed to be out there tracking this deer first thing in the morning. I also called Ryan Kramer, and told him everything. My best friends never let me down, and Ryan and Alan showed their support by also calling off work to help me. I did not sleep at all that night, and threw up multiple times. We were on the scene first thing in the morning, and were finding little blood. After 4 hours we had made it only about 80 yards down the trail, and had lost it. Fearing that I may have wounded the biggest whitetail I had ever seen, I began throwing up again. We decided to take a break. I went home and got Snuffer, my blood tracking wiener dog, and put him on the trail. While he was trained well, and was very good at finding bow shot deer without any visible blood, he eventually lost the trail, in the grass that was taller than our heads. Eventually, Ryan had to leave, so it was just myself and Alan....and we knew we were going to have to resort to grid searching. I narrowed down the cover to where I figured Catfish hunter would go if he were in fact mortally wounded. We began searching. Alan and I both went our seperate ways, and lost track of each other for hours. Eventually, I thought I saw something that looked slightly out of place, back in some thick brush near a pond. I went over there, and there he lay. I'm not too proud to admit that I started crying. Literally thousands of hours of scouting, hanging treestands, and bowhunting over 15 years had culminated in a whitetail the size that less than 1/2 of 1 percent of bowhunters will ever see in the wild...let alone get a shot. They really are the most beautiful animal in the world in my opinion. I said more prayers right there by his side, than I had in years. After awhile, I went to look for Alan. Unbeknowest to me, Alan had already found the deer and was running around looking for me. We saw each other from a couple hundred yards, and went running towards each other screaming and yelling! It was a pretty emotional time for best friends, and hunting partners. The memory of it all is something I would not trade for a million dollars. Catfish hunter was scored by official scorer Ray Hollohan and ende up grossing 197 1/8 inches non-typical as a 13 point 6x7 with billateral 10 inch drop tines. He netted 188 if you are into that sort of thing. He is by far the biggest whitetail ever taken in Kankakee county with a recurve bow. I guess sometimes even a blind hog finds an acorn.

Date:22-Sep-10

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo

Another pic.

Date:22-Sep-10

Jon Simoneau's embedded Photo

trail cam pic

Date:22-Sep-10

Wow, lots of cool looking deer guys! Congrats to each of you on a very unique trophy.

Date:22-Sep-10

Great deer and an even better story Jon. And i have to say that emotions are nothing to hold back; you can bet after the night you had and the hours preparing that i would be in tears of joy as well. Congrats

Date:22-Sep-10

A buddy shot a deer with a rifle in 2008, shot was not a good one and the deer survived. In 2009 he showed and had lost his G4 and gained a 4 or 5 inch drop. This was a 145 inch 8pt with a drop for the 9th point who was 5 1/2 years old. However there was a deer far larger on that farm and my buddy let him walk at 40 yards on camera...

Date:20-May-17

Skibroom's embedded Photo

This one came from Maine, harvested in 2014. Only one I've seen in 13 years on the property.

By: Rwd3
Date:20-May-17

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By: Rwd3
Date:20-May-17

Rwd3's embedded Photo

By: t-roy
Date:20-May-17

I've seen 2-3 with real small drops over the years. More like stickers than drops. I've only ever seen one buck with about a 5" drop in all my years bowhunting. I saw him about 2 days later and he had broken it off by then!

Date:21-May-17

Iv seen 3 one of them I missed when I was a kid the other 2 were last year while elk hunting on the same day at the same time was pretty cool.

Date:21-May-17

I passed a perfect 8pt last year in Kansas that also had 2 drops about 4"s long making him a ten point. I have a pic somewhere. He looked like a 2.5 yr old so I let him walk. Scooby

Date:21-May-17

I've personally never seen one. My bil however missed a big main frame 8 with what he figures was about a five inch drop tine on hi right side. He had a drop away rest failure that contributed to the miss. He was still shaking and pissed when we met back at the house that night.

By: patdel
Date:21-May-17

I've seen 1 while actually hunting. 30 years or so. I also saw one cross the road one night. So 2 in my lifetime.

Date:21-May-17

In 2011 I hit and lost a buck who I later saw and was doing fine (brisket). He would have probably netted low 120's but had a 9" drop tine. Never did see him again. Then this year I passed up quite a few times and got some excellent video footage of a tremendous buck who I believe to be 3.5 maybe 2,5 years old. He has a third beam and a drop 'sticker' and he's the kind of funky deer I expect might come out with a drop tine edition next year!

Date:21-May-17

SILVERADO's embedded Photo

First time I've had a drop tine buck on my properties in 15 years of hunting. Unfortunately he was taken by another hunter about 1/2 mile away.

Date:21-May-17

Woods Walker's embedded Photo

Shot in west central Illinois at 35 yards. I was stillhunting a bluff and he was following 3 does, one of which may have been hot.

I've noticed that many of the deer posted here are from the midwest. A factor??

Date:21-May-17

I know you asked about deer but a few years back I killed a big 6 x6 bull elk and he had a large drop (club) going down and one going back wards on one side. A friend of mine once he saw my bull, he gave me a shed he found the year before that matched it.

Date:21-May-17

might be a record. This thread was lost for 7 years.

Date:21-May-17

Killed a few truckloads of bucks in my 45 years of deer hunting, bow, blackpowder and rifle. Have yet to see one.

Date:21-May-17

Must be pretty rare. I've been using game cams since the film days and never even had one on camera. I killed a buck once with a nub on the bottom of his beam, that's as close as I've come.

Date:21-May-17

19 years hunting upstate NY and have only seen one with a small drop/sticker tine about .75" long... I wouldn't really consider it a drop tine

Date:21-May-17

JusPassin's embedded Photo

I watched this guy all last summer, never had a shot at him and we later found him dead after gun season. My nephew kept the skull and rack. First one I've ever seen in the wild.

Date:21-May-17

Biggest buck I saw at my last property was a double drop. Saw him with a light after dark in a soybean field. Turns out he was living two properties away. He got arrowed but after both drops had broken. I have been fortunate in my 50+ years of bowhunting especially since 2008. Never seen a mature drop tine in the woods.

Date:22-May-17

Old thread, but I've seen 2, arrowed one with one big drop, 12 inches or so, he has a couple smaller ones as well. 204 NT if I recall.

Date:22-May-17

GhostBird's embedded Photo

Killed the one and only droptine I have seen in 40 years of deer hunting. Mostly hunting Alabama & Tennessee. Here is a stud Bama buck.

Date:22-May-17

GhostBird's embedded Photo

Shot him with my Hoyt on the afternoon of bow opener, October 15, a few years back. He ran about 60 yards and did a header. The drop tine stuck in the ground and snapped off. Just my luck!!!!

Date:22-May-17

Recovered the droptine and repaired the rack before mounting the deer. I was surprised at how the club of a droptine had slimmed up after the velvet was shed.

Date:22-May-17

GhostBird's embedded Photo

By: KC9
Date:22-May-17

KC9's embedded Photo

Hunted this guy for 5 years, had the same drop(s) every year. Could of shot him in '09 but his right side had busted off and I gave him the pass. This was the last time we ever saw him in '11. Twenty yards in front of my stand, however I had filled my tag two days before on the best buck I've ever shot. Got him with the camera. I've seen a few droptines over my 33 years of bowhunting

Date:22-May-17

In 45 yrs of hunting I've seen 1. Passed on him 3 times in bow season cause he was just a 2.5 yr old. Killed opening day of rifle season about a mile away at bottom of mountain by a rifle hunter on another farm. I should have killed him but just couldn't do it because he was only 2.5.

By: njbuck
Date:22-May-17

Never seen a drop or double drop but my dream deer is a double drop buck. If I got lucky enough to take one I could end my hunting career a happy man. A hunting buddy of mind did shoot a double drop about 8 years ago here in NJ, its the only drop tine buck that I personally know about that has been killed in my area.

By: CJE
Date:22-May-17

CJE's embedded Photo

I've seen a handful over the years and shot one in 2003. I did find this shed this last year, I had one picture of this buck throughout the season.

Date:22-May-17

I've hunted 30+ years and have seen one. Saw him at 15 yards broadside during bow season. He was a 120ish" 8 pt with matching drops. I passed on him for a number of reasons - it was lightly raining and it was 30 minutes before dark and also since he was young and only me and one other guy had permission to hunt the property. I never saw him again.

--Mitch

Date:22-May-17

Wow, can't believe this thread was resurrected! I need to add a picture of my deer that started it all for me.

Date:22-May-17

I guess I have pretty good genetics in my area. Ive killed 4 and have seen multiple others over the years. My son has 1 and my buddy from PA killed 1. All of them have come from the same area. Might have hurt the genetics though cause I havn't seen one since my buddy killed his 3 yrs ago. Also the landowner found 1 dead a few years back that I had never seen.

Date:22-May-17

Been hunting 24 years and have not seen a WT drop tine but did have a giant MD that had a few. Should have focused on where I was shooting instead of all his points...heartbreak.

Date:22-May-17

bumpinblaze4x4's embedded Photo

Very cool to see this thread alive after i started it almost 7 years ago. Here's another pic of mine; this was my first deer ever (it was a shotgun kill) and it's in one of the lowest quantity and quality whitetail deer counties in illinois. Man, wish i had weighed him...

By: t-roy
Date:22-May-17

Talk about being "ruined"! Tough to go anywhere but down from there, Chris! Nice!

Date:03-Jun-17

Ridge Rock's embedded Photo

The neighbor ended up shooting him.

Date:03-Jun-17

6ptbuck's embedded Photo

Harvested this double drop tine last October in NJ during archery season.

Date:03-Jun-17

Ward's Outfitters's embedded Photo

Double Drop Coues

Date:10-Jun-17

 GannettRidge 's embedded Photo

That Double drop Coues is awesome! I have only seen a handful of droptine deer in my life and only one Muley most have been WT. I was super lucky and caught up with the mule deer this last fall.

Date:12-Jun-17

12yards's embedded Photo

Do these count? Small double drop?

Date:12-Jun-17

Bigfoot's embedded Photo

Taken one legitimate drop tine buck (pictured here), but have seen a few others. Have seen lots of small 'bumps' or short little tines extending below the beam. We call those 'drip' tines.

Date:15-Jun-17

Cheesehead Mike's embedded Photo

Date:15-Jun-17

spearfisher's embedded Photo

Only seen one "true" droptine buck ...he had two drops and one of them split...and had a third antler coming out the middle of his skull...very unique

Date:08-Jul-17

Rutin buck's embedded Photo

Kansas 2012 I believe was the year my buddy killed a double drop tinelast year within 2 or 3 miles of where this one came from it was his second.. he killed a single drop several years ago in Iowa

Date:09-Jul-17

Stressless's MOBILE embedded Photo

Hunted the 100 farm and some surrounding areas for 20yrs, never saw one or harvested one till last year. My buddies son got this P&Y and one on GAME cams that made the hit list. Thousands of pics hundreds of bucks over the years but these are the first two and both last year, one is a def drop tine, the other is symmetrical w two drops... if he lived he'll be close to a #1 on the Hit list

Date:09-Jul-17

Stressless's MOBILE embedded Photo

Here's the droptine mature buck from the farm last fall.

By: APauls
Date:10-Jul-17

Seen one. Scouting the day prior to the season in Saskatchewan. About a 150" 4x4 main frame with an additional double 13-15" drop tines. One on each side, one was a boot. Not till the day I die will I forget that image. Standin beside the road 75 yards...because a doe was there. Oh mama.

By: wilbur
Date:10-Jul-17

wilbur's embedded Photo

I've got this drop tine buck coming to a Grand Pa Rays food plot. Hope it keeps it up into hunting season.

By: MK111
Date:10-Jul-17

In 51 yrs of deer I finally took a drop tine last year. But the drop tine was only 1" long. Didn't see it at 150 yrds when I shot him. Seen a great 6-8" drop tine at 300 yds on my neighbor's hay field. Found a drop tine scull in my woods 5-6 yrs ago and no one close remembers ever seeing it.

Date:10-Jul-17

In the course of a year I look at a lot of bucks. Have done so since the late 60's. Many hundreds or even more.

Drop tines were never common nor all that rare. I do see a few each year.

True trophy class bucks with drop tines are quite rare, just as any trophy buck is in Ks. today. When you add in a specific feature such as 10" brow tines, a drop tine, 6x6 typical antlers or a 23" inside spread the odds of seeing that feature on a huge antlered buck drop to one in tens of thousands.

Many very old bucks that never in their life grew a decent rack will often have drop tines along with other odd points and thick bases at age 7+. Still not much of a trophy. They live to an old age due to no one wanting to shoot them.

Date:10-Jul-17

hitmanonmac's embedded Photo

I have only ever seen 1 alive, but was fortunate to find this deadhead!

Date:12-Jul-17

Growing up I always dreamed up killing a drop tine buck. I was lucky enough to kill an 8.5 year old buck that I named "DT" in 2015 that had a 5" drop tine and then turned around and killed another buck in 2016 with multiple drops. I am not on the hunt for a big typical...

Date:12-Jul-17

TreeWalker's embedded Photo

I have seen a few and have glassed thousands of deer including mule deer, blacktail, Eastern whitetails, Coues whitetail and Columbian whitetail.

I have seen 1 with an extra beam (shot it in 2015, perhaps is just a huge eye guard) and 8 with significant droptines. So, the 1 in 1000 estimate is likely reasonable for mature, free-range bucks.

By: Oakie
Date:12-Jul-17

Oakie's embedded Photo

I have a few tidbits some may find interesting. There was a buck I hunted for many years whom, when I first saw photos of him, had a small drop tine on his left antler. I figured him as age 3-4. The following season, the drop tine was gone. I hunted the deer the next 6 years before finally killing him. He never formed the drop tine again. It was a one year only feature.

I killed a buck in KS a while back that I called the double dagger, whom had what I would also call flyer points. But some have called them drops. I'll attach his photo on this post and then followup with a much more interesting story.

By: Oakie
Date:12-Jul-17

Oakie's embedded Photo

Several years back in Kansas, I passed on a 3-4 year old 8 point that was maybe around 130-135. I found a shed of his that following spring. But that year, I hunted Iowa and didn't think much again about that deer. Another year passes and I'm shed hunting a piece about a mile away and find a very solid 4x shed lying in an active scrape. Yes, active still in March. It wasn't until the drive home that I put together that this heavy 4x shed of what would seem to be about a 145-150 class 8 point, was familiar. I realized this was the same buck I had passed up two years earlier. That summer, I hung a trail camera on the tree where I had found the shed in the spring, pointed toward the licking branch. Sure enough, bucks were still using the licking branch, even in velvet. But what I captured on film sure caught my attention. There was an amazing buck with a couple of drop tines or what you might call a cross flyer/drop combo. I don't know. Too many points to really count in trail cam photos. Great buck!

It took me a while, again, to realize that the main frame of this outstanding nontypical buck was a perfect match to the shed I had found that spring. The buck I had passed as an 8 point had blown up into a tremendous whitetail 3 years later.

Later that hunting season, about 30 yards from that licking branch, I shot the largest whitetail I had ever had a chance to take in the woods. But it was not the nontypical. And the heartbreaking lesson came 10 minutes later when the nontypical walked by my stand at 30 yards and I was sitting there tagged out with a buck that I assumed was dead, somewhere in the creek. Yeah yeah, can't shoot a 180 when you shoot 160s. Believe me I get it now.

The following summer, I had the camera on the same tree and got more photos of this buck. This year he had added two more drops. Great looking animal. I saw him that hunting season running a doe, 100 yards from my stand. It would be the last I would ever see of this deer.

By: Oakie
Date:12-Jul-17

Oakie's embedded Photo

This is the same buck the following year, with 4 drop tines.

Date:12-Jul-17

been deer hunting 43 years, bowhunting 33 years. I have yet to see one in NJ, Illinois, or Ohio which are the states I have hunted. I would say "pretty rare".

By: Tman
Date:12-Jul-17

Tman's embedded Photo

Don't know the exact number I've seen but quite a few. Watched this mulie last winter and found his drop tine shed. The double drop mulie was taken by a lucky hunter in rifle season and I never saw the whitetail in person.

Date:12-Jul-17

Where's the deer in that last pic? He's really hiding well! ;-)

By: Tman
Date:13-Jul-17

Tman's embedded Photo

Supposed to be this picture. Even I can't find him in the other one. Weird


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